precisely. if Israel would return the land theyve unjustly occupied and annexed over the last 60-70 years, treat their neighbors with respect, and stop their barbaric quest for more land, I would not have a problem with or see Israel as an illegitimate state.


I dont think this will ever happen unfortunately. in fact, quite a number of high ranking Israeli officials want to expand even more!

When discussing the Bible, it’s important to address it within its context. In Genesis 15, God promises Abraham that his descendants will inherit the Promised Land, but not immediately. Verse 16 explains that one reason for the delay is that “the sin of the Amorites is not yet complete.” This shows that, while God condemns evil, He also provides time for repentance. God waited another 400 years before leading the Hebrews into the land and bringing judgment upon the Canaanites. We don’t know how long God had already been waiting, but 400 additional years is certainly ample time for a change in behavior. The Canaanites continued in their wicked ways for many generations before God finally decided it was time to act. This balance of mercy and justice reflects the character of a loving God.

Does this mean every Canaanite was wicked? Possibly not. There may have been a few who weren’t, and not all were killed. Even if the Hebrews were thorough in their conquest, some Canaanites likely escaped. 2 Peter 2:9 reminds us that God knows how to bring justice to the wicked while sparing the righteous, as He did with Lot and Noah.

It’s also important to understand that Hebrew writing often uses hyperbole. While not all statements are exaggerated, a lot of statements are, so we should avoid being overly literal.

ChatGPT is basically a propaganda project. In future, instead of going to Wiki which is already being hijacked and edited countless of times. They just use Chat GPT.

You know during the start of the Russo Ukrainian war? I wiki Victoria Nuland's bio on Wiki. Jewish descent. Last year, I checked again, the Jewish descent part is taken out and this year it is back again.

It will only happen once our enemies put down their weapons. I know this because I live here; we have no desire for additional land. If we do take more territory, it’s only to enforce consequences or apply pressure to meet our security requirements.

Out army wont march to gain additional land unless its in a defensive war

If you are going to base on the fact that a book gives you a land because of a divine right. You might want to think twice.

Although there are cultural leanings and 100s or even thousand of years of divine "prophecies" that is being past down generations by generation, it should never be put in that kind of perspective.

Because the Muslims does that too.

I do agree with this, they were wholly wicked & God justly commanded their destruction as they were unrepentant, this means that genocide is valid & moral when the enemy is wholly wicked.

Every Canaanite though, no, now we are getting into the whole collective punishment argument again. Though some places the people were wicked in whole, namely Sodom & Gomorrah which is explicitly stated

I am not using the book he brought the Canaanite’s so I simply stated that if you discuss biblical event you should discuss it within its context and not in the year 2024.

But lets be fair wickedness , morals etc etc are different in people's eyes depending on your culture. It's like eating cows in India is considered wicked and eating pork in Muslim world is considered sinful. This is just a very basic example.



Fair enough.

This post was edited by Hamsterbaby on Oct 10 2024 12:21pm

So he want to own muslims and their lands.

But thats like 3300 years ago, men with different values different ideas different morals.