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Oct 10 2024 02:12am
Quote (gnarjay @ 10 Oct 2024 06:43)
the Irish fought for and earned their independence, they werent gifted a country for their suffering like the Israelis were


Israelis werent gifted a country they too fought for their land
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Oct 10 2024 02:21am
Quote (gnarjay @ Oct 10 2024 01:39am)
im not sure if youre misinterpreting what i posted or maybe i poorly explained my point but youre exactly right. up until 1940 there was no plan to kill them , he just wanted them out of germany for his goal of a homogenous society.
in the article i posted above there is a consensus among scholars that the original intent behind concentration camps was for them to be temporary incarceration sites before jews were forcefully emigrated out of germany. six weeks after the USSR invasion that plan changed


ye that
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Quote (Goomshill @ 10 Oct 2024 11:21)
ye that


Asked Chat-GPT:

The Nazi concentration camps, established in Germany and later across occupied territories during World War II, served several interconnected purposes. They were designed as instruments of terror, control, and eventually, systematic mass murder. The specific objectives behind the concentration camps evolved over time, from political repression to genocide. Here are the key purposes behind the camps:

1. Political Repression and Control

The earliest concentration camps, such as Dachau (opened in 1933), were initially created to imprison political opponents of the Nazi regime, including communists, socialists, trade unionists, and other dissidents. These camps were intended to eliminate opposition and instill fear in anyone who might resist the Nazi government. Over time, the scope expanded to include groups seen as “undesirable” or “enemies of the state,” such as Roma, LGBTQ individuals, Jehovah’s Witnesses, and people with disabilities.

2. Racial Persecution and Segregation

As Nazi racial ideology intensified, the camps became a mechanism to enforce the regime’s vision of a racially “pure” society. Jews, Roma, and other ethnic minorities were targeted for persecution. The camps were used to isolate and segregate these groups from the rest of the population, often under horrific conditions. Jews, in particular, were subject to brutal treatment, which was a prelude to their eventual extermination.

3. Forced Labor

Many concentration camps were also designed to exploit prisoners for forced labor. The Nazis established labor camps as part of the war economy, using prisoners as a cheap workforce for the German armaments industry, construction projects, and even for private companies that contracted with the regime. Prisoners worked under brutal conditions, often to the point of death from exhaustion, malnutrition, and abuse.

4. Terror and Intimidation

The camps served as tools of terror to suppress dissent and ensure compliance within both Germany and occupied territories. The fear of being sent to a concentration camp was used to keep the population in line, deter resistance, and maintain control over occupied countries. The SS and Gestapo used this system of camps to instill fear, encouraging collaboration or passivity from local populations.

5. Medical Experiments

Some concentration camps, notably Auschwitz, were sites of cruel and unethical medical experiments. Prisoners, especially Jews, Roma, and others deemed inferior, were subjected to horrific medical experiments by Nazi doctors, such as Josef Mengele. These experiments included testing the limits of human endurance, sterilization experiments, and other inhumane practices aimed at furthering Nazi racial ideology or advancing German scientific knowledge at the expense of human life.

6. Genocide (“Final Solution”)

From 1941 onward, the Nazi concentration camps increasingly became a central element of the “Final Solution”, the plan to systematically exterminate European Jews. Death camps, such as Auschwitz, Treblinka, and Sobibor, were specifically designed for the mass murder of Jews, Roma, and other targeted groups. Gas chambers and crematoria were constructed to carry out genocide on an industrial scale. Over six million Jews were killed in the Holocaust, many of them in these extermination camps.

7. Eradication of “Unworthy Lives”

The Nazi regime sought to “cleanse” German society of individuals they considered biologically or socially unfit. This included not only Jews but also people with disabilities, the mentally ill, and others labeled as “life unworthy of life.” The regime’s eugenic policies, aimed at creating a “master race,” found their most brutal expression in the camps, where systematic killings and neglect led to the death of hundreds of thousands of these individuals.

Conclusion

The Nazi concentration camps served as a multi-faceted tool of repression, exploitation, and genocide. What began as a system to imprison and intimidate political enemies evolved into a vast network of camps designed to implement racial ideology, provide forced labor, and ultimately carry out the extermination of millions of people. The Holocaust, as the most infamous aspect of the camp system, represents the extreme end of the Nazi regime’s goals of racial purity and absolute control.
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Oct 10 2024 04:02am
Quote (Goomshill @ Oct 10 2024 11:21am)
ye that


Why does it matters ?
This guy trying to claim that Adolf was a fan of Zionism and because Adolf was a fan then it’s necessarily bad.
I’m sure Adolf was a fan of food and oxygen too.
That’s the worst argument I’ve heard against Zionism. Ever.
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Oct 10 2024 08:06am
Quote (Many_Names @ Oct 10 2024 01:10am)
Is entity that has existed for 3,000 years and lived in a region that once held two kingdoms has the right to self-determination?


Canaanites were the same thing

Was Moses wrong?

This post was edited by El1te on Oct 10 2024 08:07am
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Quote (El1te @ 10 Oct 2024 17:06)
Canaanites were the same thing

Was Moses wrong?


Where are they now?
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Oct 10 2024 09:12am
Quote (Many_Names @ Oct 10 2024 07:59am)
Where are they now?


Driven out by Moses & friends who didn't believe in their right to self determination
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Quote (El1te @ 10 Oct 2024 18:12)
Driven out by Moses & friends who didn't believe in their right to self determination


Where are they now?
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Quote (Many_Names @ 11 Oct 2024 00:56)
Where are they now?


Probably amongst everyone in the middle east since they inter marry with everyone whoever that survived the war back then.
So there are probably no Pure Pure Canaanites I guess ?

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Quote (WhiteSouned @ Oct 10 2024 03:02am)
Why does it matters ?
This guy trying to claim that Adolf was a fan of Zionism and because Adolf was a fan then it’s necessarily bad.
I’m sure Adolf was a fan of food and oxygen too.
That’s the worst argument I’ve heard against Zionism. Ever.


youre missing the entire point !

hitler supported zionism because it meant that jews could have their own country and thus leave germany which was his plan
zionism isnt bad just because hitler supported it, its bad because it has displaced palestinians and arabs from land theyve lived on for hundreds of years with a goal to create a homogenous Jewish state

This post was edited by gnarjay on Oct 10 2024 11:12am
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