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Oct 5 2016 07:17pm
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I am finding it really funny how sloppy their attacks are on this angle. It almost is literally unbelievable.

what's unbelievable is your 'hero' Tim Kaine took it upon himself to constantly interrupt ignore and subvert the female moderator of the VP debate. #sexist

e: you know what else is unbelievable (not really)???? Hillary scripting her own interviews and questions taking advantage of blacks and children :rofl:

http://dcleaks.com/emails/Bianca/html/Bianca/00000321.html
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3824016/Even-surprise-faked-Clinton-told-advance-questions-d-asked-Steve-Harvey-feigned-shock-anyway.html




http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-10-05/clinton-caught-using-child-actor-ask-planted-question-pennsylvania-townhall







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Oct 5 2016 07:36pm
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This is one of the few instances where I agree with Trump supporters. There's no legitimate reason why American voters should expect a businessman to pay taxes if he's legally able to avoid them. Abide by the law, and if the law is corrupt, voters should hold politicians accountable.
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Oct 5 2016 07:44pm
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This is one of the few instances where I agree with Trump supporters. There's no legitimate reason why American voters should expect a businessman American citizens to pay taxes if he's they are legally able to avoid them. Abide by the law, and if the law is corrupt, voters should hold politicians accountable.


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Everyone should pass the buck for sure.
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Oct 5 2016 07:46pm
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Indeed.
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Oct 5 2016 07:48pm
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Everyone should pass the buck for sure.


I know you don't expect capitalists to be completely moral. Why give them the choice? It's completely absurd that we would expect a businessman who suffered almost a billion dollars in losses to not use that to his tax advantage.
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Oct 5 2016 07:51pm
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This is one of the few instances where I agree with Trump supporters. There's no legitimate reason why American voters should expect a businessman to pay taxes if he's legally able to avoid them. Abide by the law, and if the law is corrupt, voters should hold politicians accountable.


I don't know how anyone can blame capitalists for abiding by capitalist principles. When corporations perform a double inversion irish maneuver, its not because they're anti-american boogeymen who hate freedom and prosperity and twirl their mustachios and cackle as bald eagles shed a solitary tear, its because their job is to maximize profits and their competition is doing the same thing, and if they won't, their stake holders will find someone who will. The problem is one of crony capitalism and corruption, the fact businesses have been able to take over the legislature and write these crooked tax codes. You can blame the politicians for that, and you can blame the businessmen who paid the bribes, but blaming the players in the game is wrong. If they had evidence that said trump was scheming to manipulate the tax law that would be more damning, but as is, all we have is evidence hillary clinton has been scheming with corporate interests.
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Oct 6 2016 10:46am
Gotta say that I'm pretty excited about the Atlantic endorsement.
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Whole lot of word salad going on here ignoring the key issue. Trump acknowledges the system can be gamed by the rich to advantage themselves, yet doesn't want to change anything that he's used in the past. Its like saying "Syria is a real mess we shouldn't be there, but i wont pull any troops." Ok so what exactly is it that you believe? We can gleem from his stances that he has no interest in fixing the tax code he acknowledges needs fixing.
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Whole lot of word salad going on here ignoring the key issue. Trump acknowledges the system can be gamed by the rich to advantage themselves, yet doesn't want to change anything that he's used in the past. Its like saying "Syria is a real mess we shouldn't be there, but i wont pull any troops." Ok so what exactly is it that you believe? We can gleem from his stances that he has no interest in fixing the tax code he acknowledges needs fixing.


idk, I'm kinda inclined to agree on this one myself. I mean, it's obvious that Trump is being a little weenie when he pretends that it makes him a genius who understands the tax code in a special way, coz it's some basic shit, but he claims to want to fix it.

Mind you, all of his policies would 'fix it' in a way that was permanently broken and would end up with our debt spiraling completely out of control when it's already getting near to unmanageable, but still, I don't particularly have a problem with him taking tax deductions.

That said, I think that throwing in the barb that those deductions exist because he lost a fucking billion dollars is good stuff.
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