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Aug 16 2015 12:03pm
Quote (duffman316 @ Aug 16 2015 01:59pm)
the predictable answer from our resident knuckle draggers will be that they and they alone have the correct interpretation of the bible and everyone else is wrong


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i see jsp's #1 pedophile is back with more toys
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Aug 16 2015 12:06pm
Quote (duffman316 @ Aug 16 2015 01:03pm)
you literally tell people they aren't real christians :rofl:


That's cause here in reality, not the liberal lala land where words don't have meanings, being a Christian implies belief in a certain doctrine.

The great majority of people who identify as Christians agree on a certain doctrine.

If I came out today and said I was a Muslim, yet I believed Jesus was the son of God, would I be a Muslim? According to your retarded relativist viewpoint I would be.

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That's cause here in reality, not the liberal lala land where words don't have meanings, being a Christian implies belief in a certain doctrine.

The majority of people who identify as Christians agree on a certain doctrine.

If I came out today and said I was a Muslim, yet I believed Jesus was the son of God, would I be a Muslim? According to your retarded relativist viewpoint I would be.


reinforcing my point and not even aware of it -_-
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Aug 16 2015 12:08pm
and widow's off writing another essay to the moderators :zzz:

these sexual predators sure can dish it out but they can't take it :/
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Aug 16 2015 12:09pm
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reinforcing my point and not even aware of it -_-


Your 12th grade atheist memes don't go above the head of anyone on this forum, lol.
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Quote (IceMage @ Aug 16 2015 01:09pm)
Your 12th grade atheist memes don't go above the head of anyone on this forum, lol.


you think wlc is brilliant

trust me, a lot of things go over your head on a regular basis
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Aug 16 2015 12:12pm
Quote (duffman316 @ 16 Aug 2015 12:59)
the predictable answer from our resident knuckle draggers will be that they and they alone have the correct interpretation of the bible and everyone else is wrong


To be fair, who is to say one way is better than another way? If someone self-identifies as a Christian, they can believe what they want to believe about the Bible.

And that's the problem - we have too many different voices saying too many different things about what the Bible is and is not. IceMage and Widow can say others are not true Christians, but those others can just as easily say that those two are not true Christians because of "x."

In one sense, IceMage and Widow are probably the two Christians I respect on here because they are consistent about that the Bible is divinely inspired and is the word of God.

Other self-identifying Christians that are more apt to critically think about their faith (i.e. TheSnipa) may approach the Bible from a far more cerebral perspective, but this is an interesting dilemma.

Basically, if you are the type of person who possess the ability to critically analyze your own faith, then it doesn't make much sense to be a Christian. You've reached the point of being able to see all of the Bible's contradictions and discrepancies.

If you lack the ability to critically analyze your own faith and/or the Bible, then it makes a lot of sense to be Christian. You don't see any contradictions because there are none; this 20 times translated book is just perfect.

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To be fair, who is to say one way is better than another way? If someone self-identifies as a Christian, they can believe what they want to believe about the Bible.

And that's the problem - we have too many different voices saying too many different things about what the Bible is and is not. IceMage and Widow can say others are not true Christians, but those others can just as easily say that those two are not true Christians because of "x."

In one sense, IceMage and Widow are probably the two Christians I respect on here because they are consistent about that the Bible is divinely inspired and is the word of God.

Other self-identifying Christians that are more apt to critically think about their faith (i.e. TheSnipa) may approach the Bible from a far more cerebral perspective, but this is an interesting dilemma.

Basically, if you are the type of person who possess the ability to critically analyze your own faith, then it doesn't make much sense to be a Christian. You've reached the point of being able to see all of the Bible's contradictions and discrepancies.

If you lack the ability to critically analyze your own faith and/or the Bible, then it makes a lot of sense to be Christian. You don't see any contradictions because there are none; this 20 times translated book is just perfect.


Lol.

Let me explain something to you. TheSnipa doesn't know more about the Bible than I do. He doesn't know more about textual criticism than I do, and he sure as hell doesn't know more about it than Widow does. You call his perspective "cerebral", because you perceive his liberal, and franky non-Christian viewpoints, as more logical than the typical Christian's.

I critically analyze my faith all the time. Before I was a firm believer, it was to pursue the truth. Now, it's more of a genuine interest in a greater understanding of the Word of God. There is no "contradiction or discrepancy" posted on PaRD I haven't already read about years ago.
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Aug 16 2015 12:21pm
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To be fair, who is to say one way is better than another way? If someone self-identifies as a Christian, they can believe what they want to believe about the Bible.

And that's the problem - we have too many different voices saying too many different things about what the Bible is and is not. IceMage and Widow can say others are not true Christians, but those others can just as easily say that those two are not true Christians because of "x."

In one sense, IceMage and Widow are probably the two Christians I respect on here because they are consistent about that the Bible is divinely inspired and is the word of God.

Other self-identifying Christians that are more apt to critically think about their faith (i.e. TheSnipa) may approach the Bible from a far more cerebral perspective, but this is an interesting dilemma.

Basically, if you are the type of person who possess the ability to critically analyze your own faith, then it doesn't make much sense to be a Christian. You've reached the point of being able to see all of the Bible's contradictions and discrepancies.

If you lack the ability to critically analyze your own faith and/or the Bible, then it makes a lot of sense to be Christian. You don't see any contradictions because there are none; this 20 times translated book is just perfect.


the bolded is what i'm referring to

also we have another fellow here called el shadday who identifies as a christian and if i remember correctly he sees jesus as a moral philosopher of sorts

people interpret the bible in many different ways and that's all fine and dandy but i have a strong dislike of arrogant turds who think they've got it right and everyone else is wrong with no real argument other than "muh beleefs!"
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