The sad thing is this is blanket and collective punishment. Are all Jews bad ? No. Are All Americans bad ? No. Are All Chinese ,Japanese, Indians, Russians, Arbas etc etc etc bad ? No.

But people fall into this all the time , can't be help and they start blaming an entire race because of a few bad sheep.

Well such is life.

It's basically the human condition, collective punishment is endemic. It's always the collective being punished for the actions of a relative minority of bad actors, and the reason behind this is because the collective body usually never criticize their bad actor kin. 80%+ of Jews in America still vote for the democratic party for example which causes people to believe it is 'all' of them (it isn't, but most of them still support the bad actors). This is the exact same thing with Muslims - the so-called 'moderate' Muslim majority NEVER criticizes radical Islamic terrorists, and they still vote for them when they have the ability, which causes people to believe they are all guilty. It's a rat's nest problem of the human condition, it can only be remedied by people within the collective calling out the insidious behaviour of their kin when it is warranted.

Such is life is true and it's complicated - are the collective guilty because they support the evil few, or are they not guilty since they haven't committed any acts themselves?

This post was edited by El1te on Oct 8 2024 04:25pm

That is true, during the War on Terror you don't see the extremely moderate Sunni Majority Countries like Indonesia or Malaysia get involved because it's their own kin.

You realize that is how they covertly test nukes when they dont want anyone to know right? Or that the area in question doesn't usually have earthquakes of that magnitude?

Im not saying that it was a nuke fam but if iran did finally enrich to weapons grade uranium, this is literally and exactly how they would go about testing it.



The point is that iran already has enough conventional missles to gain the destructive power of a nuke. A nuke is just x amount of tnt equivalent basically. Iran has free reign over israeli C-ram (yes i will debate this point effortlessly) they essentially allready have the means to wipe israel off the map (and this is before a coordinated attack from hezz/yemen/syria/iraq.

The only real question in the coming conflict is wether israeli/american ISR can detect those pesky underground launch pads in iran and shoot the missles down beforve they teach terminal velocity. Itan has no second-strike options its a one and done situation with them.

Israel has second strike capabilities (air/subs) so in a direct conflict, israel will always come out on top; will israel remain after the fact is the only strategic question that needs answering.

Btw i got a chuckle when yall were talking about missles vs ships
Catch up!

This post was edited by zorzin on Oct 8 2024 05:11pm

It seems like you haven’t encountered many Israelis based on this response.

Imagine thinking that Israel’s goal is to bomb & massacre children & sick people when in reality the goal is to take out terrorists who are hellbent on eliminating Israel and Jews as a whole from the face of the Earth

You are sick in the head. You need to get help.

Some previous polls have indicated that around 40-50% of Palestinians in Gaza support Hamas. However, supporting the organization is not the same as being fully radicalized, and many may feel compelled to express support due to the oppressive nature of the regime.

That being said, this is not Israel’s issue to resolve. We are not a target for others to take out their frustrations on.

P.S 40% are not few bad sheeps

This post was edited by Many_Names on Oct 9 2024 02:38am

I am not talking about Hamas

Amusing.
Radical Islamic groups are shooting from their schools and daycares at Israeli schools and daycares. They are de facto encouraging a retaliation that’ll result in the death of innocent lives. The western society doesn’t have a solution for a situation like this. it happens that Israel is now at the front of the war with radical Islam. Watch and learn what to do and not to do. It’ll be at your doorstep. It is already spreading around Europe.
I do understand why a person like you will be confused and suggest unrealistic solutions. Western values do not apply to radical islam. They make pleasure from hurting the west rather than improving their own situation.

As this quote is regarding Iran which the situation there is different than Hamas and Hezbollah, the sarcasm came as result of the Gaza war hence my comment.