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Quote (Landmine @ Aug 16 2022 03:59pm)
What nuclear secrets? Have you seen them? Has the doj stated they found nuclear secrets. So far it’s just an article from the Washington post.



Well the FBI won’t announce it until after a trial, that’s how you get good jurors

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Quote (JessiWan @ Aug 16 2022 02:46pm)
Did the pertinent authority ask him to return the documents but he literally said no?




You haven't definitively proven that he has committed a crime. In fact, I would say the raid showed that there was no crime yet. The FBI raided his home because they were hoping to find something that would help them to charge him with a crime. They were hoping to find evidence of wrongdoing.


unlawful possession of classified materials is a crime. your assertion that he should have been allowed to return them is fine, that's your opinion, and perhaps even what the DOJ could do, but it's not a legal obligation for them. your assertion is akin to the IRS kindly asking you to pay your taxes, when the reality is the law states it is unlawful not to pay them and the IRS isn't obligated to beg you to pay them. instead they just send you a letter letting you know you're about to be arrested if you don't.

the serving of a search warrant is always to find evidence of an alleged crime, and that appears to be what it found, evidence of a committed crime. that doesnt mean he'll be formally charged, there's no mandatory filing requirement im aware of.

"its not a crime because they havent asked him to return them" is such an odd take. next i assume you'll pivot to whether it should be a crime, not missing a beat from your claim it wasn't a crime in the first place.
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Quote (fender @ Aug 16 2022 12:52pm)
why do you keep dodging my question? has faux news not told you yet what to reply when someone asks WHY he had those nuclear secrets at his private residence in the first place?


I think his point is that you should only ask what Trump did, not why he did what he did.
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Quote (Landmine @ Aug 16 2022 02:59pm)
What nuclear secrets? Have you seen them? Has the doj stated they found nuclear secrets. So far it’s just an article from the Washington post.


i'm curious if Trump still gets daily secret service briefings. afaik no president since GHWB has, however it is the privilege of all former presidents.
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Quote (thesnipa @ Aug 16 2022 04:04pm)
i'm curious if Trump still gets daily secret service briefings. afaik no president since GHWB has, however it is the privilege of all former presidents.



Biden removed him after January 6 iirc
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Quote (fuzzy159 @ Aug 16 2022 02:32pm)
As someone who literally has to take a class every year on the subject no you are wrong.


If by "code word classified documents" we're referring to TS/SCI classified, then Sioux is right. SCI information can not just only be used/viewed in a SCIF, it can only be stored there, as well.

https://www.wbdg.org/FFC/NAVFAC/ATESS/navfac_far_east_sec_space_sept_2019_a.pdf

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Quote (KrWWW @ Aug 16 2022 03:06pm)
Biden removed him after January 6 iirc


huh?
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huh?



The current president can revoke them, but I don’t see if he actually did it, just said it in an interview
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Quote (fuzzy159 @ Aug 16 2022 02:45pm)
I'm confused at what exactly their angle is. He never leaked any confidential docs and apparently he was storing them properly. What exactly did he do that warranted this raid?




He did nothing. His major crime is that he's still popular, after all the crap the left has thrown his way.
They are afraid of Trump.
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Quote (KrWWW @ Aug 16 2022 03:15pm)
The current president can revoke them, but I don’t see if he actually did it, just said it in an interview


You're right!

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A former president is not entitled to these briefings as a matter of law, however. Rather, they are a courtesy that sitting presidents ordinarily provide to their predecessors, and they can be cut off at the sitting president’s discretion.


i didnt realize this and always assumed it was codified into law. it appears biden has barred him from briefings.
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