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May 6 2019 01:58pm
https://www.hsgac.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/2019-05-06%20RHJ%20CEG%20to%20IC%20IG%20(leaks).pdf

from Strzok's texts

“Think our sisters have begun leaking like mad. Scorned and worried and political, they’re kicking in to overdrive”
"I’m beginning to think the agency got info a lot earlier than we thought and hasn’t shared it completely with us. Might explain all these weird/seemingly incorrect leads all these media folks have. Would also highlight agency as source of some of the leaks"


https://dailycaller.com/2019/05/06/peter-strzok-cia-leaks-email/
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Strzok did not identify a specific leak, but a day earlier, NBC News broke a bombshell story that Russian President Vladimir Putin was personally involved in the U.S. election hacks. The story was sourced to “senior U.S. intelligence officials.” (RELATED: Strzok Sought To Capitalize On Dossier Release To Conduct Witness Interviews)

Strzok’s email several months later referred to another bombshell report, this one published by The Guardian.

Entitled “British spies were first to spot Trump team’s links with Russia,” the 2017 story claimed that British intelligence provided their American counterparts with information about possible Trump campaign contacts and Russians in late 2015.

In his email to colleagues, Strzok did not dispute The Guardian’s report. But the article appears to have raised his suspicion that the CIA, which is referred to in government circles as “the agency,” had intelligence that had not been shared with the FBI. Strzok believed some of that intelligence had been leaked to the media, even though it was inaccurate. (RELATED: FBI Officials Discussed ‘Insurance Policy’ Against Trump)


So lets be real. As I have said from the beginning, what we have is a comedy of flawed human beings who were all unscrupulous, paranoid that others were abusing their office and willing to justify it themselves. Not a grand conspiracy, no coordinated plot, not by Trump, not by 13 angry democrats. But a bunch of total shitheads. At least when we voted for Trump, we knew we were getting a shithead and he didn't try to pretend otherwise. That was his job, as a politician, as a president. But Strzok, Page, the CIA, Comey, McCabe, the dozen leakers already prosecuted- shitheads that were supposed to be apolitical. And boy oh boy did it get out of hand as they all went wild with their political machinations under the veneer of legitimacy provided by their institutions.

If Strzok and Page in the heart of the Mueller probe can be both living it and saying it, how can we pretend otherwise?

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May 6 2019 02:00pm


Must watch this...





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May 6 2019 04:09pm
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Maybe others had a play, im just saying that it isnt debatable as to whether or not it happens regarding Russia and will happen again in 2020.

that i will not argue.
it just wasn't a 1-sided thing is all i mean.

on that specific topic, you'd have interest in this report. there's a lot more on both countries than what i'm listing. (it's bolded like that in report)
https://www.dni.gov/files/ODNI/documents/2019-ATA-SFR---SSCI.pdf
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At present, China and Russia pose the greatest espionage and cyber attack threats, but we anticipate that all our adversaries and strategic competitors will increasingly build and integrate cyber espionage, attack, and influence capabilities into their efforts to influence US policies and advance their own national security interests. In the last decade, our adversaries and strategic competitors have developed and experimented with a growing capability to shape and alter the information and systems on which we rely. For years,they have conducted cyber espionage to collect intelligence and targeted our critical infrastructure to hold it at risk. They are now becoming more adept at using social media to alter how we think, behave, and decide. As we connect and integrate billions of new digital devices into our lives and business processes, adversaries and strategic competitors almost certainly will gain greater insight into and access to our protected information.
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May 6 2019 04:19pm
Quote (Goomshill @ May 6 2019 08:45am)
https://thefederalist.com/2019/05/06/major-report-omission-shows-mueller-either-incompetent-political-hack/

Food for thought there.

We know Steele's sources in the Kremlin gave him bogus information
We know Russian intelligence was engaged in an election disruption effort and seeding disinformation
We know Mueller did not have a single unredacted word in his report about whether Steele was the target of disinformation seeding by the Russians, nor any similar section on investigating the possibility like all the others in his report.
Its implausible that any of the redacted sections cover an exhaustive review of that possibility, but it is plausible that such an investigation was conducted and not included in the report at all.
However its more likely from what evidence we've seen and the evidence of absence we've seen, that Mueller simply failed to investigate that possibility.


Whether the dossier was Russian disinformation is a question Marcy Wheeler has been raising for quite a while.

Mueller's report is about crimes though, not counter-intelligence. Who even knows the extent to which the FBI can determine whether Steele was intentionally fed disinformation.
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May 6 2019 05:15pm
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Whether the dossier was Russian disinformation is a question Marcy Wheeler has been raising for quite a while.

Mueller's report is about crimes though, not counter-intelligence. Who even knows the extent to which the FBI can determine whether Steele was intentionally fed disinformation.

i've been trying to figure out the latter point you made as well. it's a hard question to answer with my current knowledge.
there are department standards that do surround verifying obtained information, but i'm not yet certain mueller and his team was responsible for such.
the FISA court was already responsible for that.

there is no doubt that a lot of the info from the "Steele dossier" was debunked though.
so even if not brought up in the "Mueller report", any false and/or misleading info should at least be brought to attention in the DoJ, by the mueller team.

everything we hear or say is really a lot of speculation at this point though.
DoJ's IG horowitz's report is coming supposedly near the end of june. it could be post-poned or heavily redacted based the investigation's ability to branch out when needed.
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May 6 2019 06:19pm
We all know that Russia and China wanted certain things from the US, and would use any method to get them. What those things are or were, who knows.

What I'm beginning to wonder is that maybe our "friends" from across the pond, wanted Hillary to win... for some reason. Brexit vote: 23 June 2016
Steele dossier was written from June to December 2016.

For trade reasons if nothing else, it would be in Britain's best interest to have a strong trade deal with the US that would help Britain financially.



We live in a world where all the first world countries, including the US are playing hard ball. The US does have the world's biggest economy and the world's biggest military. We would be a great country for other first world countries to have some controlling fingers in our soup.

Maybe Obama and his protege Hillary, promised the UK something that the UK suspected Trump might not? The dates of the Brexit referendum and the Steele Dossier pretty much fit with this theory.
I don't think the UK would have any nefarious designs on the US, but I could easily see they might have some trade designs on the US.

Keep in mind that to most of the 1st world countries in Europe, the US is still thought of as just a spoiled child. Worse than that even, a spoiled child with a VERY big stick and none of the were withal to properly use it.



/e To me at least, it seems like a TON of very pivotal things happened on both the US and the world stage, in June 2016.

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May 6 2019 07:23pm


Also... the investigation into Hillary disappeared into thin air in... June 2016.
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May 6 2019 11:26pm
https://medium.com/@dojalumni/statement-by-former-federal-prosecutors-8ab7691c2aa1

on open letter from former federal prosecuters detailing how the only reason trump hasn't been charged with multiple (!) felony charges for obstruction of justice is the controversial office of legal counsel policy not to indict a sitting president. 'no obstruction'...
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did you see how barr answered the question by kamala harris?
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