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Aug 16 2015 11:39am
Quote (Skinned @ Aug 16 2015 01:09pm)
No, but I think that is what a bunch of powerful men said it meant :lol:

"Our word is literally god's."


No, that is what Christians believe.

Christian teaching is explicit that every word of the Bible is the Word of God.

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That's not what they said in the Resurrection story thread.

We were getting the whole "different eyewitnesses" and "historical context" and "different people see different things" and all that jazz.


Dunno how this conflicts with it being the Word of God.

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Aug 16 2015 11:42am
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No, that is what Christians believe.

Christian teaching is explicit that every word of the Bible is the Word of God.


I don't agree with that. Every idea and teaching of scripture is God-breathed, but to say that literally every word in the Bible was mechanically inputted by God through the writers is wrong.

Not every Christian denomination has the same view on what divinely inspired means.

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Aug 16 2015 11:45am
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I don't agree with that. Every idea and teaching of scripture is God-breathed, but to say that literally every word in the Bible was mechanically inputted by God through the writers is wrong.

Not every Christian denomination has the same view on what divinely inspired means.



You just debunked your own faith in the bible as the word of god, good job man.
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Aug 16 2015 11:50am
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You just debunked your own faith in the bible as the word of god, good job man.


Stick to GC sport... we're having a big boy discussion here.
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Aug 16 2015 11:53am
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No, that is what Christians believe.

Christian teaching is explicit that every word of the Bible is the Word of God.


Well, the actual affects on culture are interesting.

A lot of studies are coming out that are showing that the Black Christian Church is providing a huge buffer against the physical and mental illness that is proven to be associated with experiencing high levels of poverty, violence, and discrimination. In this case it is literally food for the mind and body.

A couple weeks ago I attended a meeting with a group calling themselves the Faith Community Alliance (http://www.faithcommunityalliance.org/) and there were a lot of good folks there doing serious work, from running nonprofits that monitor the sewer departments for quality assurance and consumer protection to nonprofits that offer very cheap spaying and neutering for pets and stray animals, and it was a pretty cool meeting. I was invited because it is the "whose who" of activism in Cincinnati. But it was led by a Paster (and rising civil rights leader here) and opened and closed with a prayer. The biggest concern at the meet was keeping the neighborhoods nonviolent in the wake of the police killing an unarmed black male in one of our neighborhoods.

Responsible Ohio came in and pitched their legalize marijuana presentation...they had a state senator with them and a bunch of other big names representing other big people. One thing they said that was nice is that they are lobbying hard to strike marijuana convictions off of peoples' records retroactively, which is nice, because people should be able to live their lives free of that stuff.

The group also included representatives of the Gay Lesbian Straight Educational Network (GLSEN) and a couple other LGBTQ organizations it is worth mentioning.

Not all Christians believe the same things :lol:
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Aug 16 2015 11:55am
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No. Christians believe it is literally the Word of God, period.


Went and dug through the Resurrection thread to disprove this. Christians cannot agree on this point, so whether the Bible is the word of God or not really just depends on the circumstance or whatever best fits that current discussion:

Diablokgb, Post #17: "Its all relative to the observer."

Santara, post #37: "People have different perspectives, and that does not mean that they are mutually exclusive."

IceMage, post #69: "I certainly do not view them as contradictions. I view them as differences which are resolved using a realistic mindset. It's absolute silliness, with knowledge of how the gospels were written, to expect these writers to be consistent in these secondary details."

TheSnipa, post #177: "I am a believer who is more than willing to accept their are contradictions in the holy text. How else do you think a book turns out after hundreds if not thousands of edits and translations into other languages?"

Valhalls_Sun, post #188: "Since when did I say that the gospels were all of God's word?"

http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=73030880&f=119&o=250
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Aug 16 2015 11:59am
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Went and dug through the Resurrection thread to disprove this. Christians cannot agree on this point, so whether the Bible is the word of God or not really just depends on the circumstance or whatever best fits that current discussion:

Diablokgb, Post #17: "Its all relative to the observer."

Santara, post #37: "People have different perspectives, and that does not mean that they are mutually exclusive."

IceMage, post #69: "I certainly do not view them as contradictions. I view them as differences which are resolved using a realistic mindset. It's absolute silliness, with knowledge of how the gospels were written, to expect these writers to be consistent in these secondary details."

TheSnipa, post #177: "I am a believer who is more than willing to accept their are contradictions in the holy text. How else do you think a book turns out after hundreds if not thousands of edits and translations into other languages?"

Valhalls_Sun, post #188: "Since when did I say that the gospels were all of God's word?"

http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=73030880&f=119&o=250


the predictable answer from our resident knuckle draggers will be that they and they alone have the correct interpretation of the bible and everyone else is wrong
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Aug 16 2015 11:59am
Quote (ThatAlex @ Aug 16 2015 12:55pm)
Went and dug through the Resurrection thread to disprove this. Christians cannot agree on this point, so whether the Bible is the word of God or not really just depends on the circumstance or whatever best fits that current discussion:

Diablokgb, Post #17: "Its all relative to the observer."

Santara, post #37: "People have different perspectives, and that does not mean that they are mutually exclusive."

IceMage, post #69: "I certainly do not view them as contradictions. I view them as differences which are resolved using a realistic mindset. It's absolute silliness, with knowledge of how the gospels were written, to expect these writers to be consistent in these secondary details."

TheSnipa, post #177: "I am a believer who is more than willing to accept their are contradictions in the holy text. How else do you think a book turns out after hundreds if not thousands of edits and translations into other languages?"

Valhalls_Sun, post #188: "Since when did I say that the gospels were all of God's word?"

http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=73030880&f=119&o=250


You quoted a Muslim, a liberal Christian who has said he can't trust any words in the Bible, and one of the anti-Christians of PaRD.

:huh:
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Aug 16 2015 12:00pm
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the predictable answer from our resident knuckle draggers will be that they and they alone have the correct interpretation of the bible and everyone else is wrong


No Christians on this forum have ever made that argument.... for someone who claims to have an intellect above believers, you could at least understand the points we are making.

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No Christians on this forum have ever made that argument.... for someone who claims to have an intellect above believers, you could at least understand the points we are making.


you literally tell people they aren't real christians :rofl:

could it be any more obvious?

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