yes there is proof. i thought you read the links i provided? every independent expert (and a basic understanding of physics) tells you those brakes are significantly better and lower risk of derailment.
literally the only people publicly arguing against that are those paid by railroad companies who want to save costs and the politicians they bribed to help them do that.

of course you have to pretend that's not true, because that would mean admitting trump repealing obama's rule was a bad thing, and that the public shouldn't bear the risk of companies' greed - but that doesn't change the facts here.

this train should have been classified appropriately and had better safety measures. the only thing that prevented that was corporate greed combined with political corruption. keep acting or being obtuse, but anyone who isn't a complete NPC can see that.

Yes, I read the article in the left leaning "Lever".
It means nothing... they aren't experts and obviously have a secondary agenda.

This post was edited by Ghot on Feb 15 2023 08:01am

I posted links for the axle failure.
Please post links for the accordion effect causing the axle failure.

This post was edited by Ghot on Feb 15 2023 08:02am

Please, read (source is WIKI):

- The conventional braking system can take up to two minutes for a commanded brake application to propagate to the back of a long freight train.

- ECP provides many benefits over the traditional braking system. For example, since all the cars receive the brake command at the same time, the brakes are applied uniformly and instantaneously.

You understand what i means ? With ECP brakes the wagons would not certainly not look like that, and may have not blowed up. That is my point, ignoring the initial cause of derailment !

fenderp being insufferable and getting rekt again

In this case.. Wiki can not be considered a reliable source.
Especially since actual reliable sources mention nothing of this possible... fiction.

You definitely don't know when to stop ...

- almost everyone else in this thread: *provides evidence and expert opinions, understands basic physics and logic, thinks the public shouldn't bear the risks of corporate greed*
- ghot and ti: "i only believe the railroad companies who try to maximise their profits, and the politicians they bought to de-regulate them - everything else is fiction."

imagine being so incredibly engrossed in partisan bullshit that you can't even condemn such blatant corruption, resulting in massive harm to the general public, any longer - just because your "team" is responsible. absolutely pathetic...

if it were biden who de-regulated the chemical industry and railway companies they'd be all over it, clutching their pearls about corruption and blaming him personally for the accident.

Where? The only links you've posted in this entire thread were two in the same post, about the DoT repealing the ECP requirement.

And I'm not making an affirmative claim that the accordion effect caused the axle failure. Simply that you don't know that it didn't.

That's my point... they've been arguing about ECP brakes for 8 years, and still haven't come up with a definitive answer.
And they ARE experts. :-)