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Nov 16 2022 05:39pm
Quote (HeLiCaL @ Nov 16 2022 06:27pm)
russian propaganda fake news


Irony...

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Nov 16 2022 05:40pm
Quote (HeLiCaL @ Nov 16 2022 05:34pm)
go suck puttin instead of parroting kremlin propaganda


LMFAO! YOU are were parroting Kremlin propaganda, and I refuted your fucking propaganda with a quote directly attributable to Lavrov.

There's a circus somewhere missing its clown.
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Nov 16 2022 05:57pm
Quote (Santara @ Nov 16 2022 03:59pm)
Calls people low-info.
Intentionally leaves out important information. Here's what you left off:



Dishonest as fuck.


All that user does is spam the same tired boomer FB memes ad nauseum. He may as well be a bot, for all the BS his posts contain.
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Nov 16 2022 06:03pm
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Quote (Surfpunk @ Nov 16 2022 03:57pm)
All that user does is spam the same tired boomer FB memes ad nauseum. He may as well be a bot, for all the BS his posts contain.

He's an idiot, but he's correct on this point, as I show at the end of the last page.
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Nov 16 2022 06:23pm
Quote (Goomshill @ 16 Nov 2022 23:58)
So the democracy wants to stoke a war in order to stop a dictatorship from threatening the peace?
Again, Russia's record of warmongering is a drop in the bucket compared to ours. And here we are, trying to fan the flames in Ukraine



The US has been stubbornly pursuing the goal of worsening the conflict at every step without being willing to commit our own direct force. Not just sabotaging the peace deals, we keep the escalations going every opportunity we get. Its a straight replay of the plan in Syria, and look how well that worked out for us.


There was nothing to sabotage. Russia never seriously considered peace as an option and it would never stop terrorizing europe(unless forced to). Long term goal was always to restore its influence in ex Soviet union areas. Dictators like putin are predictable in that sense. I mean hes not even particularly hiding it.

I am not sure how situation in syria is related or why would you compare it, thats a complete mess. A country with hereditary system in the 20th century with multiple parties in a literal civil war.

In ukraine a finally somewhat democratic and independent country is being attacked by a crazy world leader dictator with made up reasons to justify his claim.

How are these even comperable to you ?
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Nov 16 2022 06:29pm
Quote (Santara @ Nov 17 2022 01:40am)
LMFAO! YOU are were parroting Kremlin propaganda, and I refuted your fucking propaganda with a quote directly attributable to Lavrov.

There's a circus somewhere missing its clown.


fact check: FALSE

i am bringing official United States information provided by multiple former senior U.S. officials:

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Russian and Ukraine negotiators appeared to have tentatively agreed on the outlines of a negotiated interim settlement


you are parroting Kremlin propaganda "Lavrov quote"

you are falsely accusing me of "parroting Kremlin propaganda", as you are posting quotes by ... Kremlin

in light of the points above (especially the last one), i believe its rightfully time for your medicine

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Nov 16 2022 06:44pm
Quote (kusotarre1 @ Nov 16 2022 05:39pm)
This was during the negotiations, so these things were still being worked out. Johnson's visit was two days later on the 9th, talks collapsed three days later on the 12th.

It's not some Russian conspiracy theory that Johnson was sent there to bring Zelensky back in line, here is Ukraine's outlet Pravda: https://www.pravda.com.ua/articles/2022/05/5/7344096/

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April 7th, and July, before and after, described it as an unviable agreement. Like every other negotiation.

This post was edited by Santara on Nov 16 2022 06:45pm
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Nov 16 2022 06:51pm
Quote (Santara @ Nov 16 2022 04:44pm)
April 7th, and July, before and after, described it as an unviable agreement. Like every other negotiation.

You're wrong and the article proves it, sorry this is hard for you to accept.

Not even sure why it would be, you know full well that America loves itself a good proxy war.
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Nov 18 2022 04:36pm
Well people stopped caring about this pretty fast.

No WW3 frenzy, no fun? Is that how it works?
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Quote (Mondain @ Nov 18 2022 04:36pm)
Well people stopped caring about this pretty fast.

No WW3 frenzy, no fun? Is that how it works?


Wait till you hear how fast politicians stopped caring about Covid when they couldnt exploit it
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