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Apr 15 2022 05:22pm
Quote (Santara @ 16 Apr 2022 00:46)
Conclusion: He certainly has given an absolutely enormous charitable donation to something.



That you can't see past your own (mis)conception of my position is not my fault. The "right" to kill another human being is no such thing.

Biologically speaking, there is no other point in the human life cycle where the parents' genetic offal ceases to become offal and instead becomes a new organism: conception.

I am not in a position to force my daughter to do anything, she's an adult who gets to make her own decisions. All I can hope to do is give advice that she will consider.


it's funny how the entire secular developed world sees that differently. i mean, you can do your best to frame the issue dishonestly, make dumb and obviously flawed analogies, and appeal to emotions - but again, your personal feelings regarding this issue should not matter to other people. yet you support bigots who draft legislation to force their backward religious views onto others.

so your daughter gets to make her own decision but other people's daughters don't? or do you think she also deserved to be locked up if she didn't want to have a rapist's baby? not quite clear on this. would you try to convince her to have it, regardless of what it did to here emotionally and physically?

anyway, you're not stupid person, so i assume you realise why those legislations are introduced (cheap pandering). i'm reasonably sure by now you're aware they won't actually prevent abortions, just make them more dangerous, and punish women who get caught (disproportionally affecting minority and poor women - as intended - by the legislators, not you). i know you know that the people pushing for this outright oppose measures that would actually prevent unwanted pregnancies and abortions.
so i guess what it comes down to is that you just think your personal feelings are more important than women's rights, the predictable suffering the legislation you support will lead to, and the general consensus that modern societies arrived at, trying to weigh self-determination against the rights of a zygote.

for some reason i had to think of this meme:



This post was edited by fender on Apr 15 2022 05:24pm
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Apr 15 2022 08:46pm
so if elon musk somehow has enough money to end hunger, why wouldnt governments just spend that kind of mone right now? would barely put a dent into their budget

or maybe statements like that are just complete bullshit
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Apr 15 2022 09:09pm
Who the fuck still use social medias in 2022? Twitter, Instagram, Reddit, Facebook... all the same shit. A place for suckers that try to get some visibility .
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Apr 16 2022 03:07am
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TWITTER: An Elon Musk Company 😂
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Apr 16 2022 07:35am
Quote (fender @ Apr 15 2022 06:22pm)
it's funny how the entire secular developed world sees that differently. i mean, you can do your best to frame the issue dishonestly, make dumb and obviously flawed analogies, and appeal to emotions - but again, your personal feelings regarding this issue should not matter to other people. yet you support bigots who draft legislation to force their backward religious views onto others.

so your daughter gets to make her own decision but other people's daughters don't? or do you think she also deserved to be locked up if she didn't want to have a rapist's baby? not quite clear on this. would you try to convince her to have it, regardless of what it did to here emotionally and physically?

anyway, you're not stupid person, so i assume you realise why those legislations are introduced (cheap pandering). i'm reasonably sure by now you're aware they won't actually prevent abortions, just make them more dangerous, and punish women who get caught (disproportionally affecting minority and poor women - as intended - by the legislators, not you). i know you know that the people pushing for this outright oppose measures that would actually prevent unwanted pregnancies and abortions.
so i guess what it comes down to is that you just think your personal feelings are more important than women's rights, the predictable suffering the legislation you support will lead to, and the general consensus that modern societies arrived at, trying to weigh self-determination against the rights of a zygote.

for some reason i had to think of this meme:

https://i.redd.it/jluu1nxffkh41.jpg


My daughter gets to make the decisions because abortion is currently legal. I don't have a legal say in the matter.
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Apr 16 2022 10:34am
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My daughter gets to make the decisions because abortion is currently legal. I don't have a legal say in the matter.


you want it to be illegal though - and while you might not have a legal say in the matter, that wasn't my question. you're still her dad and you said yourself you'd give her advice.

it's just a hypothetical anyway, so i don't see why you're so hesitant to entertain it, if your position is a principled one. would you advise her to have a rapist's baby, no matter how she feels about it, and would she deserve to go to prison if she had an abortion, or do you only support that cruelty for strangers in other states, poor people, and minorities?
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Russia Announces War Against Elon Musk's Starlink Satellites
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Quote (fender @ Apr 16 2022 09:34am)
you want it to be illegal though - and while you might not have a legal say in the matter, that wasn't my question. you're still her dad and you said yourself you'd give her advice.

it's just a hypothetical anyway, so i don't see why you're so hesitant to entertain it, if your position is a principled one. would you advise her to have a rapist's baby, no matter how she feels about it, and would she deserve to go to prison if she had an abortion, or do you only support that cruelty for strangers in other states, poor people, and minorities?


abortion is not about rape its about getting at all the babies
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Apr 17 2022 08:46pm
Quote (Santara @ Apr 16 2022 06:35am)
My daughter gets to make the decisions because abortion is currently legal. I don't have a legal say in the matter.


Your daughter is old enough to get pregnant? Can I ask you how old you are? You have got to be at least 50. I thought you were like in your 30s.
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Oops Twitter Bots Exposed - That's Why They Fear Selling It to Elon
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Apr 18 2022 03:28am
Quote (fender @ Apr 16 2022 11:34am)
you want it to be illegal though - and while you might not have a legal say in the matter, that wasn't my question. you're still her dad and you said yourself you'd give her advice.

it's just a hypothetical anyway, so i don't see why you're so hesitant to entertain it, if your position is a principled one. would you advise her to have a rapist's baby, no matter how she feels about it, and would she deserve to go to prison if she had an abortion, or do you only support that cruelty for strangers in other states, poor people, and minorities?


I'd opine that it's still a human being inside her, and that she doesn't have to follow a wrong with another one, that she can offer up the child for adoption as the child has done no wrong.

But even from a libertarian perspective, such a pregnancy isn't begun out of consensual action and could be considered cause for ending.

Quote (JessiWan @ Apr 17 2022 09:46pm)
Your daughter is old enough to get pregnant? Can I ask you how old you are? You have got to be at least 50. I thought you were like in your 30s.


She's 20. I am not quite 50 yet, that would be my brother.
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