I heard far left people saying that diversity of opinions is basically white supremacy. usually I just ask why shouldn't we listen to minorities' opinions.

Even as a free speech absolutist who'd be inclined to agree with it, I still don't think it should be taken as a given. There's a valid argument to be made for the efficiency of totalitarian societies that crush all dissent and enforce a common groupthink. They have their own societal benefits derived from the lack of diversity of thought. I think that such societies are also fighting against human nature and evolutionary forces that necessitate innovation to avoid stagnation and collapse. They have a bad argument, but its not one to be discounted out of hand. The chinese certainly adhere to it, and the left has started to embrace it. But diversity of races and genders and religions doesn't inherently bring anything to a workplace or government or whatever else. Without the freedom of sharing a diversity of ideas- as totalitarians crusade against- and without some grand darwinian evolutionary timescale of hundreds of generations of interbreeding, there's no inherent benefit. There are plenty of obvious drawbacks. Social cohesion breaking down, ethnic tensions, segregated communities, progressive discrimination, less qualified workers. Many of the most productive and dominant societies throughout history have been monoethnic, often outright fascist. That's not just modern history with muh nazis, that's going back into antiquity with major cultures and empires.

Gotta disagree with the bolded. Yes, homogeneity of ideas reduces friction and allows an institution/company/society to be more efficient and to adapt more swiftly to a changed environment or to new goals. This can produce short-term benefits. In the long run, however, a lack of competing ideas and visions will inevitably lead to misjudgements and misallocations which drag society down. The competition of ideas and opinions that you get in pluralistic societies is a self-correction mechanism in and off itself and prevents the worst excesses of groupthink.

I agree with everything else you've said. A monocultural society with a well-balanced degree of openness to the outside world is the most efficient societal model, and evidently superior to closed societies or multiculturalism.

This post was edited by Black XistenZ on Apr 9 2022 06:33am

loooooool. liar. you were simping hard for desantis' authoritarian overreach limiting free speech in florida.

Yeah, a 40 year old industry is new compared to steel working and manufacturing. I was talking about the 1980s. You have no sense of history.

Lol yes an industry born in the 1980s is a new one. Any industry born in my lifetime is a newer one.

or if not monoethnic there was a clear elitist group that would hold the power like in the roman empire

Hardly an institution to model a civilization on though. Rome was a rapine empire...they didn't make anything for themselves. Wars aren't profitable anymore...you just start bombing people and everyone on earth gets to see it now because of social media. A whole level of abstraction is removed when there are pictures of families blown apart outside train stations by missiles with "for the children" written on them.

The Nazis might not have been successful of their mass murder of the Jews, mentally ill, and other racial and sexual minorities, if the Holocaust was being viewed by most people in the world in real time, as you see with the special russian operation to denazify the jewish government out of Ukraine for the glory of Russia and its conscript slave warriors.

This post was edited by Skinned on Apr 9 2022 07:20am

But we are not talking about making up for it. We are talking about selecting a supreme court justice. We need to look at their merits, and whether they would be a good justice. And those things only.

If you really want to make up for past racism, there are other ways. Like maybe reducing the taxes that discriminated groups have to pay, or something like that.

I think the problem associated with your way of thinking is that you don't think of positions like this as jobs to be filled. You think of them like they are a reward. And that we should reward black people with them because they have been discriminated against in the past.

This post was edited by JessiWan on Apr 9 2022 08:28am

kbj has those in abundance - especially if you compare her with the previous two appointments, lol.

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