be funny if it was clinton instead of obama

That would be the correct definition of socialized medicine. I don't think TiStuff has the faintest clue what he's on about.

The regulations introduced with the ACA on insurers certainly had a negative impact on the working aged and healthy, and the individual mandate, forcing people to purchase a financial service whether they wanted it or not inordinately targeted the young and poor. But whatever it's faults, the ACA is not and never was socialized medicine.

Those guys often die young.

Another statement without meaning. Are you capable of making a post that's not spam?

Still ISO a response on how you're pointing at America as so totally unhealthy when 67% of Australians are overweight (31.3% obese) by the exact same measurements you're judging America by. Whatever happened to your "America so fat" talking point?

This post was edited by InsaneBobb on Mar 10 2021 04:06pm

Australia is fat too.

then the question that no one would answer. what did obama do then?

plenty of articles about obama socialized medicine. i dont care to dig them out and go through them

This post was edited by TiStuff on Mar 10 2021 04:28pm

How is that allowed to happen, exactly? When I look up Australian healthcare, it seems as though insurance is government run. Aka, you have socialized insurance, though the healthcare itself is still private. Why would taxpayers allow so much to be wasted on completely preventable healthcare costs?



Can you elaborate? I'm not certain I understand the question. What did Obama do with/about what, exactly?

This post was edited by InsaneBobb on Mar 10 2021 04:28pm

Government has nothing to do with insurance, health is public, insurance is private.

Wut?



So I'm slightly confused. The "free healthcare" in Australia is based on what is in effect public option insurance (Medicare). It can be bolstered by private insurance, which allows you to select your own doctor, and also paves a way into private hospitals. Yet "public hospitals" don't really fall under the realm of "public" either? Like, the doctors and nurses are largely not government employees. It's like the government is working as some kind of contractor. Can you explain a bit more what you mean about health is public? I get that half your hospitals are "Public Hospitals" funded largely through medicare (taxpayer-paid insurance). But given the labor is not government provided but contract-based...

Yeah, I'm confused. Seeking more info. There's a lot to read on your system. Not as much as in our completely fucked system, but plenty, regardless.

the topic is health care, its still about health care