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Jul 20 2020 02:29pm
Quote (thesnipa @ 20 Jul 2020 16:13)
so you feel the left has no issues with inter-sectional politics tainting the parties platform by needing to pander to the fringes?

i can walk you all the way to the finish line if you're willing to walk across and grab your participation trophy. maybe u need to be asked yes/no questions one at a time Ghot style.

plot twist: ghot is thor’s biological daddy
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Jul 20 2020 02:32pm
Quote (thesnipa @ Jul 20 2020 03:25pm)
dont act like a snarky bitch if u cant take being called a coward lmao.

"I'd bet you don't actually understand what the rest even mean", ok Karen. that was just an immature dodge to avoid problems your side has with intersectionality. now you're using my supposed anger to justify running. if im mad i should be easier to pick apart logically. i frankly love when someone's mad they fall over their keyboard.


That's nice. Sometimes it's fun to make an angry person angrier, but I'm not in that kind of mood right now. We'll talk when you calm down.
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Jul 20 2020 02:39pm
Quote (Thor123422 @ Jul 20 2020 03:32pm)
That's nice. Sometimes it's fun to make an angry person angrier, but I'm not in that kind of mood right now. We'll talk when you calm down.


strange how u had to walk away because im "mad" but u already walked away from the conversation before my post. i guess time isn't linear afterall.
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Jul 20 2020 02:41pm
Quote (thesnipa @ 20 Jul 2020 21:54)
o well, i thought black's list was a BAD list for what leftists openly advocate for, but a GOOD list for what their fringe offers up and they refuse to snuff out. listening to ideas and giving them credence isn't the same thing, and when ideas are bad ones they shouldn't be given credence.


Quote (Thor123422 @ 20 Jul 2020 21:56)
Which wasn't what I asked for him to list..


Many items from my list are the official party platform.



  • diversity quotas in college admissions have been embraced by the mainstream of the Democratic party for many years; and it really isnt hard to see how calls for expanding them to boards and panels and the judiciary and public sector jobs will become the norm among the left in the next couple of years.
  • toxic masculinity and related concepts of modern feminism aren't exactly a fringe position to hold among Democrats either.
  • abandoning the idea of the American melting pot in favor of multiculturalism has been the more or less official party line for over a decade, even if it isnt spelled out explicitly, word for word.
  • large-scale amnesty plus a pathway to citizenship for almost every illegal immigrant is the official party line since at least 2017. These things are explicitly demanded in the official platform proposal put forth by the Biden-Bernie unity committee a couple of days ago.
  • safe spaces are a well-established and accepted instrument among the left.
  • cancel culture might not be the official party doctrine yet, but it made huge strides in recent years, both in terms of its scope and its acceptance within the party.
  • striving for equality of outcomes, irrespective from the potential inequaltiy of the inputs, is also a stance that is well-established and not overly controversial among Democrats. Particularly in recent years, the line of reasoning usually goes "unequal outcomes are indicative of discrimination or persisting and unjustified privileges, and should therefore never be tolerated".


So the only point from my list that might not make the cut is the one about the nanny state, which was too general and wobbly to be definitively confirmed or falsified.
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Jul 20 2020 02:57pm
Quote (Black XistenZ @ Jul 20 2020 03:41pm)
Many items from my list are the official party platform.


  • diversity quotas in college admissions have been embraced by the mainstream of the Democratic party for many years; and it really isnt hard to see how calls for expanding them to boards and panels and the judiciary and public sector jobs will become the norm among the left in the next couple of years.
  • toxic masculinity and related concepts of modern feminism aren't exactly a fringe position to hold among Democrats either.
  • abandoning the idea of the American melting pot in favor of multiculturalism has been the more or less official party line for over a decade, even if it isnt spelled out explicitly, word for word.
  • large-scale amnesty plus a pathway to citizenship for almost every illegal immigrant is the official party line since at least 2017. These things are explicitly demanded in the official platform proposal put forth by the Biden-Bernie unity committee a couple of days ago.
  • safe spaces are a well-established and accepted instrument among the left.
  • cancel culture might not be the official party doctrine yet, but it made huge strides in recent years, both in terms of its scope and its acceptance within the party.
  • striving for equality of outcomes, irrespective from the potential inequaltiy of the inputs, is also a stance that is well-established and not overly controversial among Democrats. Particularly in recent years, the line of reasoning usually goes "unequal outcomes are indicative of discrimination or persisting and unjustified privileges, and should therefore never be tolerated".


So the only point from my list that might not make the cut is the one about the nanny state, which was too general and wobbly to be definitively confirmed or falsified.


I'm gonna pick one from the list

What do you think a "safe space" means and what do you think are the problems with it? And if I tell you that you are mistaken would you be willing to accept it?

This post was edited by Thor123422 on Jul 20 2020 03:03pm
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Quote (Black XistenZ @ Jul 20 2020 01:41pm)
Many items from my list are the official party platform.


  • diversity quotas in college admissions have been embraced by the mainstream of the Democratic party for many years; and it really isnt hard to see how calls for expanding them to boards and panels and the judiciary and public sector jobs will become the norm among the left in the next couple of years.
  • toxic masculinity and related concepts of modern feminism aren't exactly a fringe position to hold among Democrats either.
  • abandoning the idea of the American melting pot in favor of multiculturalism has been the more or less official party line for over a decade, even if it isnt spelled out explicitly, word for word.
  • large-scale amnesty plus a pathway to citizenship for almost every illegal immigrant is the official party line since at least 2017. These things are explicitly demanded in the official platform proposal put forth by the Biden-Bernie unity committee a couple of days ago.
  • safe spaces are a well-established and accepted instrument among the left.
  • cancel culture might not be the official party doctrine yet, but it made huge strides in recent years, both in terms of its scope and its acceptance within the party.
  • striving for equality of outcomes, irrespective from the potential inequaltiy of the inputs, is also a stance that is well-established and not overly controversial among Democrats. Particularly in recent years, the line of reasoning usually goes "unequal outcomes are indicative of discrimination or persisting and unjustified privileges, and should therefore never be tolerated".


So the only point from my list that might not make the cut is the one about the nanny state, which was too general and wobbly to be definitively confirmed or falsified.


But Diversity Quotas have already been ruled unconstitutional since like the late 70s and again in the early 2000s.
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Jul 20 2020 03:38pm
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But Diversity Quotas have already been ruled unconstitutional since like the late 70s and again in the early 2000s.


And Nazi racial theory has been verboten since the 1940s. History doesn't repeat, but it sure rhymes. Amazon, among many, has been the subject of recent ire because it doesn't have a "diverse" enough board. What that has to do with internet commerce is anyone's guess.
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Jul 20 2020 03:41pm
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And Nazi racial theory has been verboten since the 1940s. History doesn't repeat, but it sure rhymes. Amazon, among many, has been the subject of recent ire because it doesn't have a "diverse" enough board. What that has to do with internet commerce is anyone's guess.


Amazon is a great barometer by which we can measure which kind of leftist a person is.

Leftist A: Amazon needs a more diverse Board.

Leftist B: Amazon is a blood-sucking monolith that represents as one of the most grotesque modern examples of capitalism. Jeff Bezos is a parasite on society and the hoarding of his wealth should not be lionized.
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Jul 20 2020 03:46pm
Quote (bogie160 @ 20 Jul 2020 17:38)
And Nazi racial theory has been verboten since the 1940s. History doesn't repeat, but it sure rhymes. Amazon, among many, has been the subject of recent ire because it doesn't have a "diverse" enough board. What that has to do with internet commerce is anyone's guess.

huffpo too lmao

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Jul 20 2020 03:52pm
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Not one good looking woman in that photo. It wasent even the photo is all chicks, that was my immediate first thought if I'm being honest.

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