If I were to share my evidence, here's how that discussion would go:
1. I will post proof of how often black people are frisked/assaulted by the police compared to white people.
2. You will post proof of how often black people are involved in crimes compared to white people.
3. I will point out that this only makes up for part of the difference, and that part of it is still inexplicable.
4. Both of us will insist that the other is wrong, but we both will not have any leg to stand on because neither of us are statisticians and neither of us have particularly deep knowledge about this topic.

We don't need to have that conversation, since all of it is fully predictable. If you are interested in evidence for either side of the argument, you are free to look it up yourself.

And because this is how all "post proof or shut up" conversations go, I call it a deflection. You know just as well as I do that nobody has ever allowed some evidence on an Internet forum to change their mind. Let's not pretend you or I will suddenly change that.

You had both parents, one advantage, as the state didn't kidnap one of them and lock them in a cage, replaced by the state, to encourage state dependence.

In order for wages to be kept low overall there need to be a large, urban, underclass to draw cheap labor on that is disposable. Americans have always used minorities for this.

Until the other half of white america thinks that their lives matter i see no justice no peace.

Black people used to be banned from buying property in my neighborhood. There are blacks here now. That means we've moved forward.

We still get to be born on third base, get the interview, get the loan, it makes a difference.

How many times have you been beat up by the police or had a gun stuck in your face by one? You might be very privileged and not know it

This post was edited by Skinned on Jun 15 2020 06:13am

This is an exceedingly low IQ post

Back to the question why said blacks don't stay away from crime and instead work hard and save up the cash they can make. Cuz they can, just like anyone else.

BTW in your view a black burger flipper is most likely a modern slave while a white burger flipper is still privileged. That kind of view perfectly shows current day madness.

I'm sorry, you must be responding to someone else. That is a youtube video.

YouTube isn't an intellectual or scientific resource.

Next time post a dope warzone vid.




The same avenues for success do not work for the blacks like they work for the whites. The returns are much more diminishing. And if you live in a poor neighborhood you have to pay more money for commodities across-the-board. Plus you go to poor schools that have bugs there and old crapy books while other white kids in the suburbs have nice books and schools without bugs and nice buses, Also they do not lack of sports teams and extra curriculars.

Fruits and vegetables cost a lot less money in nice neighborhoods. Not only do people in nicer neighborhoods have better access to health care but the also have better access to nutrition.

It is also a lot harder to get places we don't have access to a car and a lot of racism is very subtle and expressed in ways such as where are the bus stops placed or who is allowed where, like private communities, neighborhood associations.

Gun control is racist.

This post was edited by Skinned on Jun 15 2020 06:51am

I mean, I'm not saying I will not evaluate what you say and not point out things i disagree with. But I'm not looking to outright attack you for it or demean you. And, I have looked some of this stuff up.

I studied the Correctional system & later also studied Law Enforcement in College and have some experience in multiple parts of the Correctional field - which I now am involved with other employment opportunities. I also just recently posted a study on D2Jsp in regards to police killings of black peole, and how what people try to present it as, is incredibly misleading and false.

And I have listened to a lot of speakers and read information online, and do ask a lot of questions - which, everybody should ask a lot of questions. These are pretty complex topics and people are trying to simplify them to only a matter of race.

And I'm not saying I'm a full blown expert, but some of this stuff I do have knowledge of.

This post was edited by GLYC123 on Jun 15 2020 07:02am

You're describing the impact of "tough on crime" policies that were widely popular in the black community when they were implemented.

Urban blacks are poor and unemployed because the urban communities in which they live are collapsing. There is no industry, the jobs that they traditionally relied on have left, and blacks themselves have been moving out of cities into communities that have lower rates of crime, poverty, and drug use.

You attribute far too much agency to socioeconomic structure. There's no evil capitalist hiding in the shadows conspiring to make blacks poor. Bezos and company have demonstrated clearly enough that they don't need to oppress blacks to become obscenely rich.

Crime rose in the 1980s (the homicide rate at one point doubled); black and white communities simultaneously lobbied for tough on crime and tough on drug policies. Many of those policies have gone on to have a less than optimal impact. But telling people that we need to punish violent crime less to drive down incarceration rates is a much harder sell than telling them it's racist cops enforcing the will of "the man" who is exploiting blacks for ???. As with the sheep in Animal Farm, it's far easier to just give the people nice sound-bytes and slogans.

I mean, you complained about me being uneducated and said I needed to do more to educate myself. I responded by using a Ben Shapiro video who references data and makes a lot of great argument points.

And you're too lazy to even watch him do a full breakdown critique of a lot of the points you said.

Oh okay.

This post was edited by GLYC123 on Jun 15 2020 06:57am

It's evident that other ethnic groups like Asians or Hispanics are generally doing much better than the afro Americans. Most of what you say feels like a bunch of excuses really.

Blacks can do manual labor just like others do and do well. You don't need a nice school for that.