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May 21 2020 11:02am
Quote (fender @ May 21 2020 06:12pm)
liberal? you idiot, i'm not a liberal. do you even know what that word means? i'm a progressive. it's funny seeing you shill for the private prison industry though, your butthurt reveals your true colours. here's some hard truths about it:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DlCXjcQgNJg


Well that's exactly what I suspected, thx for confirming. What's the color of your hair today?

BTW you still failed to explain the huge difference between the US' numbers and Germany's numbers.

How come there's so many modern slaves in Germany, is it perhaps cuz these poor bastards need to pay the price of those "superior conditions for workers in general" that you are claiming?

Now that would be even more scandalous. The superior Germans buying their BMWs over the backs of poor slave laborers! Da faq man
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May 21 2020 11:05am
lol i can only assume its me Fenderp is saying supports private prisons above.

in my senior year i wrote a 20 page paper on ending the industry entirely, then when i graduated i worked in prisons with an organization that tried to lower recidivism rates, we also would go to many confrences trying to lobby the end to the industry. for nearly 10 years on PARD i've been 100% against it, and called for a federal ban on private prisons.

but a foreigner posts a youtube video or two and calls me a supporter of the industry. what a riot.
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lol i can only assume its me Fenderp is saying supports private prisons above.

in my senior year i wrote a 20 page paper on ending the industry entirely, then when i graduated i worked in prisons with an organization that tried to lower recidivism rates, we also would go to many confrences trying to lobby the end to the industry. for nearly 10 years on PARD i've been 100% against it, and called for a federal ban on private prisons.

but a foreigner posts a youtube video or two and calls me a supporter of the industry. what a riot.


and so the backpedaling begins. right, let's pretend you were not so blinded by your obsession and butthurt, that you defended america's exploitation of labour in for-profit prisons, lol. again:

people are getting confused over an important distinction here: i'm not saying that working while in prison is necessarily a bad thing. it has, in fact, many positive aspects - but it gets problematic when it becomes a significant economic incentive for a privatised prison industry, leading to harsh punishment, recidivism, and discriminatory laws and their enforcement - which clearly is the case in that tier IV shithole, looking at the makeup of america's outrageously large prison population.
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May 21 2020 11:01pm
Quote (fender @ 21 May 2020 19:12)
and so the backpedaling begins. right, let's pretend you were not so blinded by your obsession and butthurt, that you defended america's exploitation of labour in for-profit prisons, lol. again:

people are getting confused over an important distinction here: i'm not saying that working while in prison is necessarily a bad thing. it has, in fact, many positive aspects - but it gets problematic when it becomes a significant economic incentive for a privatised prison industry, leading to harsh punishment, recidivism, and discriminatory laws and their enforcement - which clearly is the case in that tier IV shithole, looking at the makeup of america's outrageously large prison population.


tldr: quasi-slave labor of prisoners is ok as long as the prisons are owned by the government instead of private companies.
*Stalin intensifies*
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Quote (Black XistenZ @ 22 May 2020 07:01)
tldr: quasi-slave labor of prisoners is ok as long as the prisons are owned by the government instead of private companies.
*Stalin intensifies*


since it's you, i'll just assume it's stupidity, and not intentional misinterpretation of what i said.

here's the crayon version: working in prison has its benefits (focusing on the societal side here, assuming rehabilitation is the goal) - economic incentives for the prisons, however, open a whole new level of potential problems - as proven by the private prison industry in the US. you're welcome, buddy.
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May 22 2020 03:46am
Quote (thesnipa @ May 21 2020 12:05pm)
lol i can only assume its me Fenderp is saying supports private prisons above.

in my senior year i wrote a 20 page paper on ending the industry entirely, then when i graduated i worked in prisons with an organization that tried to lower recidivism rates, we also would go to many confrences trying to lobby the end to the industry. for nearly 10 years on PARD i've been 100% against it, and called for a federal ban on private prisons.

but a foreigner posts a youtube video or two and calls me a supporter of the industry. what a riot.


philosophically, whats the difference between
"A private prison operating under state regulations and auditing"
and
"A public prison built, maintained, and cleaned by private contractors, operated by the department of corrections, with food services, utilities and entertainment by private contractors"

The classical argument against privatization was the corrupt profit motive to lock people up in private prisons. But doesn't that still exist with private contractors in the public sector? I can think of some bridges and roads-to-nowhere around here that didn't need our tax dollars wasted on them. Are the politicians the safeguard standing inbetween? If private prisons industry lobbying was the corrupting force, wouldn't that still exist as long as they are contracting for public prisons anyway?
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May 22 2020 04:24am
Quote (fender @ May 21 2020 09:12am)
liberal? you idiot, i'm not a liberal. do you even know what that word means? i'm a progressive. it's funny seeing you shill for the private prison industry though, your butthurt reveals your true colours. here's some hard truths about it:


You do not support liberty, how could you be liberal? Liberal literally means "for liberty". I don't think anyone on the left could make that claim. Even the "libertarians" of the left want to tax the income of citizens and allow those tax dollars to be used for alien invaders.

You're right, you're no liberal. :)

This post was edited by InsaneBobb on May 22 2020 04:25am
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Quote (InsaneBobb @ May 22 2020 08:24pm)
You do not support liberty, how could you be liberal? Liberal literally means "for liberty". I don't think anyone on the left could make that claim. Even the "libertarians" of the left want to tax the income of citizens and allow those tax dollars to be used for alien invaders.

You're right, you're no liberal. :)


Everyone who is not a native american is an "alien invader"
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May 22 2020 05:12am
Quote (Plaguefear @ May 22 2020 04:08am)
Everyone who is not a native american is an "alien invader"


That kind of nonsense is exactly that, nonsense.

Especially from someone from Aus/NZ. Who's the invader there again?
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May 22 2020 05:16am
Quote (InsaneBobb @ May 22 2020 09:12pm)
That kind of nonsense is exactly that, nonsense.

Especially from someone from Aus/NZ. Who's the invader there again?


I have aboriginal blood, but yeah my statement stands here too.
In fact we ruined this country.
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