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Aug 23 2019 07:52am
Quote (Skinned @ 23 Aug 2019 09:41)
Primary isn't decided by debates silly.

There are a lot of reasons I'll elaborate on later when I'm not working.

well yeah the DNC already made their choice just like in 2016 but okie, looking forward to the reasons my friend. enjoy the day :)
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Aug 23 2019 07:55am
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Don't be so fooled by polls. Sure, everyone knows Trumps says a lot of brow-raising and questionable things, but he's not nearly as unpopular as some would like to think. Remember, Hillary was projected to win in a landslide by the very same polls. At the end of the day, it's the working Americans who show up on voting day that matter.


In 2016, Trump was a historically unpopular candidate running against another candidate who was also historically unpopular. Trump was the single-most unpopular major party candidate in modern history. But Hillary came right behind him, she was the second-most unpopular. The share of the electorate which dislked both candidates was unusually large in 2016, and these voters broke for Trump by a 3:1 margin in the end.

Furthermore, most pundits and reporters in 2016 didnt expect such a large split between national polls and the situation in the electoral college. Doesnt mean that the polls were wrong, just that the pundits misinterpreted them and infered a too high certainty for Hillary's triumph out of them.


So yes, Trump is less unpopular in the places that will decide 2020 than he is in national polls. Yes, Trump has all the time in the world to make up the necessary ground, to win over the ~6% he's currently missing. But no, none of this means that he's currently in a strong position. He's not. His current position is precarious, and if he ends up going into election with the same 42% national approval he's having at the moment, then he's definitely toast.

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Of course.
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Moulton ends bid for U.S. Democratic presidential nomination

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-moulton/moulton-ends-bid-for-u-s-democratic-presidential-nomination-idUSKCN1VD1H9

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He is the third Democrat to end a presidential campaign this month. Washington Governor Jay Inslee dropped out of the race earlier this week, and former Colorado Governor John Hickenlooper did so the week before.


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“I think it’s evident that this is now a three-way race between (former Vice President Joe) Biden, (U.S. Senator Elizabeth) Warren and (U.S. Senator Bernie) Sanders, and really it’s a debate about how far left the party should go,” Moulton told the New York Times in an interview ahead of his announcement.




They're starting to drop like flies. I wonder how long it will take to get down to the three we expect to last till the end.
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Moulton ends bid for U.S. Democratic presidential nomination

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-moulton/moulton-ends-bid-for-u-s-democratic-presidential-nomination-idUSKCN1VD1H9







They're starting to drop like flies. I wonder how long it will take to get down to the three we expect to last till the end.


Who?

Sorry, but these nonames dropping out early is a good thing for the DNC. Particularly when they do so in time to instead run for other office, like Inslee (Washington governor), Hickenlooper (Colorado senate) or Moulton (House seat).

We basically have a field which is already winnowed down to 5-6 candidates with a chance: Biden, Sanders, Warren, Harris, Buttigieg and perhaps Booker.
Perhaps Williamson will make one more debate and talk about how we should love purple and green crystals just as much as red and blue ones, but that's about it.
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Aug 24 2019 06:32am
Trump will be president again, it will suck, economy is gonna tank and he won't know how to handle it and he will sack his cabinet secretary when it happens and talk about some conspiracy against him in Twitter and a bunch of people who are otherwise smart will defend him and it, and like they say when the economy always tanks during a GOP presidency and recovers throughout a Dem presidency that the president has nothing to do with the DOW. Until a GOP guy is elected into a growing economy again and they will pretend his business acumen is leading the country.

There is not really a reason to talk about this much more as I know the responses.

Excellence, back to Harris, reasons...she is black and black people might come out and vote for her. She is a tough woman who seems able to handle aggression from males very well, where Trump won't know how to deal with a woman equal to him or who has more personal power than him.. she isn't a frail model trying to sell him pussy she is a tough lawyer who has made controversial and tough decisions and could also beat Trump in an actual fistfight more than likely. She ain't a mail order bride and she ain't Nancy Pelosi. She would likely campaign in Ohio, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, Michigan, other Blue industrial states that HRC ignored, that have strong working class bases, which is naturally Democrat. Her health care proposals are more gradual and offer a mixed state and private solution rather than just state solution and that is less scary to a general electorate than a shitty Anthem and Humana Medicare for all plan. I think interpersonally she would keep her cool, not respond when he called her fat, unattractive, nasty, or whatever racial slur he would use if it would fly, etc, and even be able to make a real case for the Democraric party moving on.

Yes she has a troubled past, indicating that she has a track record of working on high acute, high pressure situations, and decision making in those decisions, and then living long enough to have said decisions come back to haunt her. This is a great growing experience but only people who have wore the crown know it hangs heavy.

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Trump will be president again, it will suck, economy is gonna tank and he won't know how to handle it and he will sack his cabinet secretary when it happens and talk about some conspiracy against him in Twitter and a bunch of people who are otherwise smart will defend him and it, and like they say when the economy always tanks during a GOP presidency and recovers throughout a Dem presidency that the president has nothing to do with the DOW. Until a GOP guy is elected into a growing economy again and they will pretend his business acumen is leading the country.

There is not really a reason to talk about this much more as I know the responses.

Excellence, back to Harris, reasons...she is black and black people might come out and vote for her. She is a tough woman who seems able to handle aggression from males very well, where Trump won't know how to deal with a woman equal to him or who has more personal power than him.. she isn't a frail model trying to sell him pussy she is a tough lawyer who has made controversial and tough decisions and could also beat Trump in an actual fistfight more than likely. She ain't a mail order bride and she ain't Nancy Pelosi. She would likely campaign in Ohio, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, Michigan, other Blue industrial states that HRC ignored, that have strong working class bases, which is naturally Democrat. Her health care proposals are more gradual and offer a mixed state and private solution rather than just state solution and that is less scary to a general electorate than a shitty Anthem and Humana Medicare for all plan. I think interpersonally she would keep her cool, not respond when he called her fat, unattractive, nasty, or whatever racial slur he would use if it would fly, etc, and even be able to make a real case for the Democraric party moving on.

Yes she has a troubled past, indicating that she has a track record of working on high acute, high pressure situations, and decision making in those decisions, and then living long enough to have said decisions come back to haunt her. This is a great growing experience but only people who have wore the crown know it hangs heavy.


Imho, this post of yours makes more than 20 wrong statements.
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Aug 24 2019 07:05am
>Democrat prolongs a recession 8+ years
>”surely Donald Trump will screw up in a recession”
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Aug 24 2019 07:17am
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>Democrat prolongs a recession 8+ years
>”surely Donald Trump will screw up in a recession”


Bush 2 is a Democrat now.

Quote (Black XistenZ @ Aug 24 2019 08:43am)
Imho, this post of yours makes more than 20 wrong statements.


We fundamentally disagree on a lot of things.
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Aug 24 2019 07:21am
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Bush 2 is a Democrat now.


Agreed. Aside from the pandering to the religious right, Bush II mostly advanced a neoliberal, globalist agenda.


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We fundamentally disagree on a lot of things.


I know, and that's totally fine for me. I just wanted to point out that I really very strongly disagree with your assessment of Harris.

To expand on one point: you said that she seems to be able to handle male aggression very well - do you have any example for this? During the debates, she only got into a heated argument with Joe Biden, while the other male candidates held back out of a fear of being seen as "sexist" when confronting her bs. And when she ripped Biden a new one, he didnt react with aggression, he... basically, sleepy Joe made it clear that he'd rather go to bed. :lol:

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