Quote (IceMage @ 1 Jul 2019 23:57)
When you paint a picture in your head that the proud boys, or some other group, are Nazis, you end up justifying some stupid shit. And you end up reacting in a ridiculous way to some fringe group of Trump supporters who mostly don't advocate anything close to fascism. It's just bizarre LARPing that confuses and disturbs a lot of normal Americans. Antifa presents itself as a radical group in black attire and masks who beat up innocent people and destroy property.
So we should probably clarify some things here - First off I didn't say the Proud Boys were nazis. I referred to them as a far right hate group. They associate with and defend neo-nazis and you can find neo-nazis in their ranks. But they are not a neo nazi organisation. You might be able to make a case for calling them white supremacist as they are often linked with white supremacist events and groups.
Antifa are presented that way by the press and by the fash. Sensationalism sells. I am proudly antifascist and I haven't punched a single nazi. Nor do I intend to unless one attempts to punch me.
Rarely are the people antifa engages with in physical violence 'innocent'. Andy Ngo has been following antifa around for ages trying to get them to hit him so he can do exactly what he's done. Do you know who the old guy who got hit in the video people have posted multiple times here is? I don't. What's he doing at a proud boys rally if he's not antifa? Funny how we get the video that begins immediately as he is struck and doesn't show what leads up to it. That's a lot of tattoos for an old dude too. Hmmm.
I was doing some quick research to find out who the guy was who defended him and stumbled across this too. In this article from the independent we can see someone who looks an awful lot like that dude getting up in the face of some antifa kid. The guy behind him with the shield is also seen in the video. That's a pretty aggressive stance for an 'innocent old man'.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/antifa-attack-portland-andy-ngo-portland-proud-boys-alt-right-a8981331.htmlFurther down there is a pic of the same guy bloodied after the confrontation. Now you can see him fully without the towel over his face he doesn't look so much like a frail old pensioner huh? This is how propaganda works. They take snippets of a larger story that fit their narrative and cut the parts that don't.
This post was edited by TransTankie on Jul 1 2019 06:17pm