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Sep 14 2018 10:13am
Quote (Melatonina @ Sep 14 2018 11:08am)
I require it so I know the pictures taken aren't manipulated or fakes like it is suggested there.
http://www.pentagone.info/
Note that they dont conclude on anything about 11/09, they just say official story is wrong on many points, especially with pentagone.

The silence from autorities. Instead of showing that damn video. its deafening.


LOL!

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Until Thierry Meyssan publishes the Dreadful Imposture , shock book that claimed on the cover: "No plane crashed on the Pentagon! ", And introduced the famous missile thesis, which was repeated by some of the documentaries contesting the official version of the most famous attacks, including Loose Change 2 and Zero.


I just showed you photographic proof that aircraft debris was recovered all over the site. How would a missile knock over the lamp poles?
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Rip Widow. Favourite person as I lurk. Cause of him i quickly learned that i cant be mad at someone who has a different opinion vs mine nor that i should go out my way to convince same person to convert my opinion.

Also cause he also rustled so many jimmies.
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Sep 14 2018 10:42am
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LOL!



I just showed you photographic proof that aircraft debris was recovered all over the site. How would a missile knock over the lamp poles?


The site you are reading is not supporting Messyan's theory. Do you need me to translate you properly ?
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I just showed you photographic proof that aircraft debris was recovered all over the site. How would a missile knock over the lamp poles?


You don't know better than myself who and where thoses shots were taken. You only believe 2017's FBI as a truthful source ? LMAO
CIA/FBI, there is literally nothing less trustworthy than their words. I do not trust murders like you sorry. Oh and 16 years later some pictures ? csb
Note that official's 11/09 story gets the same treatment. Nice way of thinking "independant studies" in the country of freedom

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You don't know better than myself who and where thoses shots were taken. You only believe 2017's FBI as a truthful source ? LMAO
CIA/FBI, there is literally nothing less trustworthy than their words. I do not trust murders like you sorry. Oh and 16 years later some pictures ? csb
Note that official's 11/09 story gets the same treatment. Nice way of thinking "independant studies" in the country of freedom


see tho, once you get into the "lol u believe the source" game you lose. card sultan is no different. he just says "nasa lol" and doesn't bother to prove theyre doctored or that the math is wrong.

a conspiracy theory needs more than face validity and an underlying motive to be credible.
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see tho, once you get into the "lol u believe the source" game you lose. card sultan is no different. he just says "nasa lol" and doesn't bother to prove theyre doctored or that the math is wrong.

a conspiracy theory needs more than face validity and an underlying motive to be credible.


Scientific facts proves card is wrong. its different.
But I can understand being patriot is more intuitiv than being indoctrinated by flat earth theory.
His source aren't credible just like we can't count on FBI/CIA to not lie. History is full of lies from those people. no thanks

If that is scientifically possible then why not reproduce it ? It would be easy to solve this with just few tests.

Again, this is not just my opinion but the opinion of many phisicians and pilots all around the world, not only the ones I've talked to but many in U.S too.

Independant study about 11/09 still hasn't surfaced yet. I do believe in science, some believe in politics. Matter of taste

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Scientific facts proves card is wrong. its different.
But I can understand being patriot is more intuitiv than being indoctrinated by flat earth theory.
His source aren't credible just like we can't count on FBI/CIA to not lie. History is full of lies from those people. no thanks

If that is scientifically possible then why not reproduce it ? It would be easy to solve this with just few tests.

Again, this is not just my opinion but the opinion of many phisicians and pilots all around the world, not only the ones I've talked to but many in U.S too.

Independant study about 11/09 still hasn't surfaced yet. I do believe in science, some believe in politics. Matter of taste


its different, and it's the same. think about the hundred or even thousands of people involved with the clean up of the pentagon site. the independent contractors and their teams that came in to repair it. etc.

you think the FBI could put a hush order out on thousands of people to lie? or you think they just scattered a few fake plane parts on a missile impact site and expected no one to notice?

in that aspect it's the same as card, it implies a VERY large conspiracy of thousands of people, but on one is speaking out. that never happens. someone always talks. even if it's anonymously. instead we just have conspiracy theorists looking at photos and saying "something's fishy". no one there that day is saying that that i've seen.
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Sep 14 2018 11:54am
Quote (Melatonina @ Sep 14 2018 11:44am)
You don't know better than myself who and where thoses shots were taken. You only believe 2017's FBI as a truthful source ? LMAO
CIA/FBI, there is literally nothing less trustworthy than their words. I do not trust murders like you sorry. Oh and 16 years later some pictures ? csb
Note that official's 11/09 story gets the same treatment. Nice way of thinking "independant studies" in the country of freedom


I have been using the same sources since I first started discussing this event on this site: https://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=47751999&f=119&o=133

Unlike truthers, I don't have to come up with new stories when holes are punched in my old ones.
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its different, and it's the same. think about the hundred or even thousands of people involved with the clean up of the pentagon site. the independent contractors and their teams that came in to repair it. etc.

you think the FBI could put a hush order out on thousands of people to lie? or you think they just scattered a few fake plane parts on a missile impact site and expected no one to notice?

in that aspect it's the same as card, it implies a VERY large conspiracy of thousands of people, but on one is speaking out. that never happens. someone always talks. even if it's anonymously. instead we just have conspiracy theorists looking at photos and saying "something's fishy". no one there that day is saying that that i've seen.


Why would everyone including subaltern "clean teams" need to know ?

That is suggesting it would be an inside job. aka something I haven't said yet.

I only said that official story contradicts what I vaguely know about thermodynamic and it triggered everyone. And it seems I am not the only one on that position. There are like thousands of actual scientifics saying it, some I personally know.

It seems like the official story is lacking scientific proofs for its story and that over time they had to make up some kind of fake news including only .. pictures.

Pictues aren't a scientifical proof of anything at all. Especially if the source is like the less trustworthy source in the entire universe.

If an independant investigation comes to the same conclusion as the official, non-independant investigation came, then I will probably admit I was wrong about it.

Reminds me good old times with advertising and tabacco campains back in the 50's... Just reverse roles with us state / tabacco industry and you have it.
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Sep 14 2018 12:07pm
Quote (Santara @ Sep 14 2018 06:54pm)
I have been using the same sources since I first started discussing this event on this site: https://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=47751999&f=119&o=133

Unlike truthers, I don't have to come up with new stories when holes are punched in my old ones.


Sorry I did not read the first pages of this topic. I will maybe read your link later.
I'm not as close-minded as people seems to think, I'm just not satisfied with any version I've seen, it being either gov or loose change or anything else crazy theory
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