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Sep 6 2018 11:34pm
The GOP set Trump up, basically. Got what they wanted from him and now they can remove him for mental illness and ensure the Mueller investigation is shut down before it ruins any actual Party loyalists and establishment members.

Trump supporters have been had by the GOP. Quite ironic.
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Sep 6 2018 11:40pm
Quote (inkanddagger @ Sep 7 2018 01:34am)
The GOP set Trump up, basically. Got what they wanted from him and now they can remove him for mental illness and ensure the Mueller investigation is shut down before it ruins any actual Party loyalists and establishment members.

Trump supporters have been had by the GOP. Quite ironic.


Set up? Idk about that but they're definitely just using him for court picks, and in return they look away from his corruption. A toxic mutually beneficial relationship. (Beneficial to trump as he's an egomaniac narcissist who loves the attention of being president and wielding the power that comes with it).
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Sep 7 2018 12:27am
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This would imply trump won the popular vote, he did not. The people chose Hillary, the electoral college (or the delegates more specifically) chose Trump.


just stop this stupid narrative already. it pops up every other week, and it's making me sick because of how stupid it is.

this was a campaign for the electoral college, not for maximizing the popular vote share. a campaign for the popular vote would have looked very differently, with much more rallies in states like texas, new york and california.
we dont know how surging turnout from marginalized electorates in large states (california republicans, texas democrats) would play out. we simply do not know which candidate would have won such a race for the popular vote.

in any case, however, it is completely misleading and redundant to look at the popular vote outcome in an election that explicitly was not about the popular vote.

This post was edited by Black XistenZ on Sep 7 2018 12:28am
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Sep 7 2018 12:29am
shows how the far-left is desperate to cling to yet another glorified temper tantrum
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Quote (Black XistenZ @ Sep 7 2018 02:27am)
just stop this stupid narrative already. it pops up every other week, and it's making me sick because of how stupid it is.

this was a campaign for the electoral college, not for maximizing the popular vote share. a campaign for the popular vote would have looked very differently, with much more rallies in states like texas, new york and california.
we dont know how surging turnout from marginalized electorates in large states (california republicans, texas democrats) would play out. we simply do not know which candidate would have won such a race for the popular vote.

in any case, however, it is completely misleading and redundant to look at the popular vote outcome in an election that explicitly was not about the popular vote.


Lol, my point that i was trying to make in an inflammatory way was that the delegates chose trump not the people and that plenty of people like myself who are opposed to trump are glad there is a "steady state", do you want to Assad Bashar assassinated? Did you see the memo that Gary Cohn ripped off trump's desk? Trump isn't always acting in the best interest of americans/national security.
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Sep 7 2018 01:25am
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Lol, my point that i was trying to make in an inflammatory way was that the delegates chose trump not the people and that plenty of people like myself who are opposed to trump are glad there is a "steady state", do you want to Assad Bashar assassinated? Did you see the memo that Gary Cohn ripped off trump's desk? Trump isn't always acting in the best interest of americans/national security.


its a really slippery slope though. its probably a good thing if aides and senior officials prevent a (politically) inexperienced and impulsive president from making horrible decisions. but on the other hand, he has the mandate from the people who elected him into the office, and he is the one who should usually make the final decision. if his staffers intervene all the time and/or in "borderline cases", that's really undermining democracy and thus a very bad thing. if they intervene at all, they should only do it in clear-cut cases.

edit: fixed two typos...

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Sep 7 2018 01:47am
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its a really slippery slope though. its probably a good thing if aides and senior officials prevent a (politically) inexperienced and impulsive president from making horrible decisions. but on the other hand, he has the mandate from the people who elected him into the office, and he is the one who should usually make the final decision. if his staffers intervene all the time and/or in "borderline cases", that's really undermining democracy and thus a very bad thing. if they intervene at all, they should only do it in clear-cut cases.

edit: fixed two typos...


Problem with your electoral college is he has a mandate from less than half the people who voted.
Problem with america is he doesn't even have a mandate from the huge portion of that group who were just angry bernie voters who just wanted to see the world burn.

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Sep 7 2018 01:53am
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Problem with your electoral college is he has a mandate from less than half the people who voted.
Problem with america is he doesn't even have a mandate from the huge portion of that group who were just angry bernie voters who just wanted to see the world burn.


He had the overwhelming support of whites and people older than 35. That's all he's likely to care about anyways.

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Sep 7 2018 03:24am
in a certain sense, democrats are really playing with fire by embracing anti-white strains of identity politics - if they trigger whites to become more racially conscious and in response start voting republican by the same margin that blacks vote democratic, then the Democrats would not win a federal election again for decades.

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Sep 7 2018 03:37am
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in a certain sense, democrats are really playing with fire by embracing anti-white strains of identity politics - if they trigger whites to become more racially conscious and in response start voting republican by the same margin that blacks vote democratic, then the Democrats would not win a federal election again for decades.


the democrats are losing it completely imo, running riot just like our leftist parties in germany, completely unable to reflect on their actions

Quote (Plaguefear @ 7 Sep 2018 09:47)
Problem with your electoral college is he has a mandate from less than half the people who voted.
Problem with america is he doesn't even have a mandate from the huge portion of that group who were just angry bernie voters who just wanted to see the world burn.


the electoral college is necessary for a country like the us if the states with smaller population are to bo represented somehow

is that really so hard?
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