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This "girls are bad at math" would only be reinforced by affirmative action. Girls that are as good as boys at STEM can currently be as successful as boys at STEM, giving them an unfair advantage would imply they aren't as good. If I knew someone I looked up to only got into the field because of affirmative action I would lose a lot of respect for that person, personally. Will little girls look at inflated affirmative action statistics as role models or women like Marie Curie who were top of their class through handwork and dedication and made groundbreaking discoveries her in respective fields?
With this system of affirmative action the only other thing that could happen would be the male and female in question have literally the exact same qualifications. This scenario seems less likely than affirmative action supporting a lesser qualified over a qualified based on gender.
The data I am interested in is affirmative action having a strong role it "gender expectations, roles and stereotypes" in a positive manner enough to justify the prejudice. I am just curious if this idea is induced by data
Affirmative action is merely one consideration among many though in either an admissions or acceptance process, so I don't think it's the case that either people will see success only because of affirmative action or that people looking up to said individuals will view their experience as being cheapened. At least, not to any significant level. For a woman to apply into a STEM major would still mean she would have to show a proficiency in math and science, just like everyone else applying. Affirmative action by itself isn't going to get you anywhere at all, like for instance, the UT policy which was at the center of the recent Supreme Court decision used affirmative action as part of a larger "personal achievement index", which takes into consideration far more than just a person's gender.
Affirmative action is in part based off of research regarding things like the contact hypothesis (Intergroup Contact Theory) which suggests that one of the strongest factors associated with reducing prejudice is exposure and contact with people of diverse backgrounds. Again, affirmative action is currently an auxiliary tool that has an understood innate 'sunset clause', although there is no set specific date or number to identify when this has been achieved, the underlying idea still remains. It's a point that has been reiterated in the Supreme Court cases on affirmative action.
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This is easily shown in any sport or things that require strength like weightlifting/power lifting
"Interests" and "ability" are two different things though, and weightlifting is inherently physical and ability-oriented rather than what we were previously discussing, which are majors and areas of interest regarding career.
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Inconsistency on one's stance doesn't change how truth works. If women are biologically better than men then in most cases they should get custody except in cases where the woman is demonstrably worse than the male.
I don't believe there is any truth regarding the biology of females that results in them being inherently better qualified for parenting.