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Apr 14 2016 02:40pm
Quote (Santara @ Apr 14 2016 12:38pm)
Nah, it's pretty terribad cuz already oligarchy.


doesn't much matter if the people keep pushing through the establishment

sanders most likely won't win popular or delegate vote so it's not like super delegates are stopping a people's champ
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Apr 14 2016 03:16pm
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doesn't much matter if the people keep pushing through the establishment

sanders most likely won't win popular or delegate vote so it's not like super delegates are stopping a people's champ


Probably not, but it's terrible optics for the party "of the people."
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Apr 14 2016 03:18pm
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Nah, it's pretty terribad cuz already oligarchy.


It's about finding a candidate for your party. Your party should have a say.
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Apr 14 2016 04:32pm
I don't know how *anyone* can support one of the other 4 choices given who they are, unless they have a personal opposition to abortion that they let overrule all other considerations. Clinton is obviously far more qualified than the rest, and none of them come anywhere close to addressing the major concern that everyone should have that they're prepared for the job, based on the policy proposals they've made and their record in government.

It's true that Kasich and Sanders wouldn't be the absolute disaster that Cruz and Trump would be, but that still doesn't mean it wouldn't be a mistake to vote for them. I just laugh when people volunteer that they're considering voting for any of those people. It's just crazy to me. There may have never been a clearer sign of people not knowing what they don't know.
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Apr 14 2016 04:34pm
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I don't know how *anyone* can support one of the other 4 choices given who they are, unless they have a personal opposition to abortion that they let overrule all other considerations. Clinton is obviously far more qualified than the rest, and none of them come anywhere close to addressing the major concern that everyone should have that they're prepared for the job, based on the policy proposals they've made and their record in government.

It's true that Kasich and Sanders wouldn't be the absolute disaster that Cruz and Trump would be, but that still doesn't mean it wouldn't be a mistake to vote for them. I just laugh when people volunteer that they're considering voting for any of those people. It's just crazy to me. There may have never been a clearer sign of people not knowing what they don't know.


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Apr 14 2016 05:03pm
Quote (Pollster @ Apr 14 2016 11:32pm)
I don't know how *anyone* can support one of the other 4 choices given who they are, unless they have a personal opposition to abortion that they let overrule all other considerations. Clinton is obviously far more qualified than the rest, and none of them come anywhere close to addressing the major concern that everyone should have that they're prepared for the job, based on the policy proposals they've made and their record in government.

It's true that Kasich and Sanders wouldn't be the absolute disaster that Cruz and Trump would be, but that still doesn't mean it wouldn't be a mistake to vote for them. I just laugh when people volunteer that they're considering voting for any of those people. It's just crazy to me. There may have never been a clearer sign of people not knowing what they don't know.


Clinton flip flops more than Romney, and that's saying something. She has very few deeply held beliefs, she will compromise any position if her donors or public opinion sways a certain way. She is running for president for her own narcissistic pride of being the first woman president, like Obama wanting to be the first black pres. Obama gets away with it more because he is a smoother operator, and frankly is a lot smarter than her.

They are all big government types, and follow Keynesian theory. For the 2nd election running I will be writing in Ron Paul in the general election.
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Apr 14 2016 05:08pm
I think Hillary is willing to admit when she's wrong more than she's a flip flopper, though I do think she's a megalomaniac who thinks she can do as she likes whenit comes down to it. I'm just getting incredibly okay with that as a trait in a president.

Honestly tho, I'm probably going Jill Stein in the general.
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Apr 14 2016 05:11pm
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I think Hillary is willing to admit when she's wrong more than she's a flip flopper, though I do think she's a megalomaniac who thinks she can do as she likes whenit comes down to it. I'm just getting incredibly okay with that as a trait in a president.

Honestly tho, I'm probably going Jill Stein in the general.


I'm considering Gary Johnson.
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Apr 14 2016 05:14pm
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I think Hillary is willing to admit when she's wrong more than she's a flip flopper, though I do think she's a megalomaniac who thinks she can do as she likes whenit comes down to it. I'm just getting incredibly okay with that as a trait in a president.

Honestly tho, I'm probably going Jill Stein in the general.


You think the gay marriage and TPP flip flops were not politically motivated?

It blows my mind that Obama can go from not supporting gay marriage to lighting up the White House in homo colors. The man is more concerned about his place in history than his place in eternity... maybe he really is an atheist.
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Apr 14 2016 05:14pm
Quote (Skinned @ 14 Apr 2016 15:11)
I'm considering Gary Johnson.


I wish I could vote for Leonard Peltier again. I'd vote Roseanne if she wasn't a TERF.
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