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Sep 10 2015 02:19pm
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You'd be extremely, extremely naive and foolish to think there are no terrorist agents or potentially violent people coming in with these illegal immigrants. Extremely foolish. Especially when in all the un-edited and un-tampered footage I see of these people consist of 80% able-bodied men.

To play the devil's advocate, if I were in ISIS or any organization that intends harm or violence, I'd be licking my chops at this unprecedented situation as an opportunity to infiltrate my enemies.


Im sure there are plenty of terrorists in the sea of refugees, i just dont think they comprise a statistically relevant percent. Just like i dont think a statistically relevant percent of cops are racists who target blacks simply because of their skin color.

TBH with Russia rolling in id be pretty surprised if ISIS is exporting large numbers of soldiers. Unless of course they are abandoning Syria altogether and taking the fight elsewhere.
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Sep 10 2015 02:25pm
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Im sure there are plenty of terrorists in the sea of refugees, i just dont think they comprise a statistically relevant percent. Just like i dont think a statistically relevant percent of cops are racists who target blacks simply because of their skin color.

TBH with Russia rolling in id be pretty surprised if ISIS is exporting large numbers of soldiers. Unless of course they are abandoning Syria altogether and taking the fight elsewhere.


It doesn't even have to involve an more organized group like ISIS. These people, who are essentially conducting a passive invasion, consist of many able-bodied men. These people generally don't acclimate to a host country's culture and way of life. Thus some of them turn radical. Remember those Boston bombers? The machete guys who hacked off a Brit soldier's head? The man who tried to shoot up a train? The Charlie shooters in France? Expect more of this. People can cry foul all they want when I say this, but these third-world Islamic people generally aren't the most tolerant sort. Allowing huge swaths of them to essentially invade your lands is not a recipe for success, especially when they smell weakness in the air.
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Sep 10 2015 02:31pm
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It doesn't even have to involve an more organized group like ISIS. These people, who are essentially conducting a passive invasion, consist of many able-bodied men. These people generally don't acclimate to a host country's culture and way of life. Thus some of them turn radical. Remember those Boston bombers? The machete guys who hacked off a Brit soldier's head? The man who tried to shoot up a train? The Charlie shooters in France? Expect more of this. People can cry foul all they want when I say this, but these third-world Islamic people generally aren't the most tolerant sort. Allowing huge swaths of them to essentially invade your lands is not a recipe for success, especially when they smell weakness in the air.


idk about you but i'm afraid of young white kids shooting up my church and/or school
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Sep 10 2015 02:33pm
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It doesn't even have to involve an more organized group like ISIS. These people, who are essentially conducting a passive invasion, consist of many able-bodied men. These people generally don't acclimate to a host country's culture and way of life. Thus some of them turn radical. Remember those Boston bombers? The machete guys who hacked off a Brit soldier's head? The man who tried to shoot up a train? The Charlie shooters in France? Expect more of this. People can cry foul all they want when I say this, but these third-world Islamic people generally aren't the most tolerant sort. Allowing huge swaths of them to essentially invade your lands is not a recipe for success, especially when they smell weakness in the air.


The population of Europe swelled .068% as a result of Syrian immigration from the estimate I've seen, hardly an invasion. With countries splitting up the refugees and taking on small groups i think assimilation will be more successful than if we threw them all together somewhere. As to the attacks, are you suggesting that those attacks are atypical? to the point that is pays to keep out muslim immigrants because they are actually endangering the general population? I dont think so. terrorist attacks would continue to happen even without the immigration. Its not as if they require people living there to carry out attacks. For this reason i see the attacks as an unrelated issue to the immigration.
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Sep 10 2015 02:36pm
Quote (duffman316 @ Sep 10 2015 08:31pm)
idk about you but i'm afraid of young white kids shooting up my church and/or school


Likewise, I'm afraid of getting mugged, robbed, or even killed by aggressive and uncivilized black "youths" in Baltimore and DC while the police shrug off any racial motivations.

Speaking of which, non-whites seem to be giving whites a run for their money when it comes to recent mass shootings. Guess as the US becomes less and less white, there's going to be more non-white shootings. Gasp! Who would've thunked?
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The population of Europe swelled .068% as a result of Syrian immigration from the estimate I've seen, hardly an invasion. With countries splitting up the refugees and taking on small groups i think assimilation will be more successful than if we threw them all together somewhere. As to the attacks, are you suggesting that those attacks are atypical? to the point that is pays to keep out muslim immigrants because they are actually endangering the general population? I dont think so. terrorist attacks would continue to happen even without the immigration. Its not as if they require people living there to carry out attacks. For this reason i see the attacks as an unrelated issue to the immigration.


No, it pays to have control over who enters your lands and countries. Ask the Romans, the Armenians, and American Indians about how important this is. Don't be fooled by numbers either. They're expecting what, roughly one million for 2015? Well what happens if one or more million come the next year, and the next? I could always be wrong, maybe things will subside. But why should they? When you have politicians and brainwashed liberals essentially holding up signs stating "Refugees welcome!", why should they stop coming? Some people like to blame all of this on big, bad, evil American foreign policy. Perhaps the war serves as some catalyst to a degree, but even without the war they'd still be coming. It's EU policy, which dictates: anyone fleeing poverty will not be rejected. That policy can apply to billions of people around the world. It's like feeding bears or squirrels. There's a reason why they tell people not to do it. Once they get an impression they're welcome and you won't resist, they'll keep coming back, and potentially more of them each time.

Don't forget these people generally don't practice responsible birth control either. They trend to reproduce at a far greater rate. Contrary to popular belief, an aging population is not a bad thing, it's a sign that a society is stabilizing. This bullshit that "population growth, population growth, rah-rah! more people! population growth!" is such foolish poppycock. You see a lot of this crap from advocates of illegal immigration here in the US, too.

I'm also sick and tired of people calling these people "refugees".



Dick move by the camera woman, by the way. Refugees don't run from authorities. Notice they're not in a hurry to get to other countries like, say.... Russia or Saudi Arabia. That's because they know Europe is weak with political correctness; they know Europeans are afraid to turn them away because mindless drones like duffman316 will enter the fray with redundant crap "blah blah blah, racism, blah blah you hate brown people" to squelch any reasonable opposition and discussion. So tired of the race card being played that it no longer even bothers me. Go on, call me a racist, I don't even give a fuck, I'll just agree with you.



The wealthy gulf nations aren't taking any in. They're not in any hurry to get to Russia or India. They're perfectly safe in other countries like Turkey. But no, no they keep valiantly marching onwards to those socialist promised lands. They're after all that butter, those succulent welfare nations. Almost reminds me of the first crusades. Dark ages Europe was basically a shithole, rampant war, famine, and religious extremism. Suddenly, the lowly European peasants up and moved to the "promised lands", the more civilized Arabian and muslim lands.

I don't know whether to laugh or cry for Europeans, particularly the recipient countries like Germany or Sweden. It's like their medias have all brainwashed them into assuming the position over a barrel to allow themselves to get fucked in their collective asses. The way the media is handling this nothing short of manipulative propaganda. As I mentioned before, look for un-edited footage of these "refugees". The media has a hard-on for cherry-picking heart-tugging photos and stories such as the drowned Syrian boy; a boy who was perfectly safe in Turkey, by the way, until his parents decided to become economic migrants and endangered him.

This post was edited by CarsV on Sep 10 2015 03:31pm
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If it's any consolation, half the time I can't tell if you're trolling or being serious.
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Sep 10 2015 03:18pm
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No, it pays to have control over who enters your lands and countries. Ask the Romans, the Armenians, and American Indians about how important this is. Don't be fooled by numbers either. They're expecting what, roughly one million for 2015? Well what happens if one or more million come the next year, and the next? I could always be wrong, maybe things will subside. But why should they? When you have politicians and brainwashed liberals essentially holding up signs stating "Refugees welcome!", why should they stop coming? Some people like to blame all of this on big, bad, evil American foreign policy. Perhaps the war serves as some catalyst to a degree, but even without the war they'd still be coming. It's EU policy, which dictates: anyone fleeing poverty will not be rejected. It's like feeding bears or squirrels. There's a reason why they tell people not to do it. Once they get an impression they're welcome and you won't resist, they'll keep coming back, and potentially more of them each time.

Don't forget these people generally don't practice responsible birth control either. They trend to reproduce at a far greater rate. Contrary to popular belief, an aging population is not a bad thing, it's a sign that a society is stabilizing. This bullshit that "population growth, population growth, rah-rah! more people! population growth!" is such foolish poppycock. You see a lot of this crap from advocates of illegal immigration here in the US, too.

I'm also sick and tired of people calling these people "refugees".

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aZ7QnMJpzpE

Dick move by the camera woman, by the way. Refugees don't run from authorities. Notice they're not in a hurry to get to other countries like, say.... Russia or Saudi Arabia. That's because they know Europe is weak with political correctness; they know Europeans are afraid to turn them away because mindless drones like duffman316 will enter the fray with redundant crap "blah blah blah, racism, blah blah you hate brown people" to squelch any reasonable opposition and discussion. So tired of the race card being played that it no longer even bothers me. Go on, call me a racist, I don't even give a fuck, I'll just agree with you.

http://www.pasteall.org/pic/show.php?id=92983

The wealthy gulf nations aren't taking any in. They're not in any hurry to get to Russia or India. They're perfectly safe in other countries like Turkey. But no, no they keep valiantly marching onwards to those socialist promised lands. They're after all that butter, those succulent welfare nations. Almost reminds me of the first crusades. Dark ages Europe was basically a shithole, rampant war, famine, and religious extremism. Suddenly, the lowly European peasants up and moved to the "promised lands", the more civilized Arabian and muslim lands.

I don't know whether to laugh or cry for Europeans, particularly the recipient countries like Germany or Sweden. It's like their medias have all brainwashed them into assuming the position over a barrel to allow themselves to get fucked in their collective asses. The way the media is handling this nothing short of manipulative propaganda. As I mentioned before, look for un-edited footage of these "refugees". The media has a hard-on for cherry-picking heart-tugging photos and stories such as the drowned Syrian boy; a boy who was perfectly safe in Turkey, by the way, until his parents decided to become economic migrants and endangered him.


As im nearly done with work i cant address much more ATM, but that bolded part is way off. Germany alone is accepting 500k refugees legally, some estimates ive seen show nearly that many trying to get there illegally. So 1 million in germany alone. Ive also seen estimates that half of the 25 million population of Syria has been displaced. So approx 12.5 million, a large number of which would choose Europe as their destination. Compared with Europe's 2013 approx population of 742.2 million thats around a 1.68% population increase if literally half of Syria immigrated. The number isnt overwhelming if its handled correctly. Its truly a problem of organization rather than actually being overwhelmed by the sheer number IMO. Either way im sure we agree that the issue wont ever be fixed until major strides are made in stabilizing the Middle East in general, how i have no clue.
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