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Oct 28 2014 07:44am
Quote (Santara @ Oct 28 2014 08:42am)
Your inner moron is showing again. If you can do better, hop to it. Because the data presented indicate nearly 3/4 of a million non citizens nationwide voted in 2008, and nearly 1 & 3/4 million are registered to vote.

Is it any wonder why Democrats resist border control furiously?


How many of them successfully had a vote counted? I bet the number is very small.
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How many of them successfully had a vote counted?  I bet the number is very small.


Um... 3/4 of a million? Ballots are secret and all that.
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Oct 28 2014 07:48am
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Um... 3/4 of a million? Ballots are secret and all that.


I would have to really need convincing to believe that the problem is that widespread. I've never heard the number be so big. I've taken a lot of poli sci and social policy classes and talked about elections extensively and all of the credible sources (I've seen) point to a much smaller number.

I know voter registration fraud has some big numbers, but not voting fraud.

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Oct 28 2014 08:12am
The data is right there in the link. It isn't like it is a small sample.
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Oct 28 2014 08:32am
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The data is right there in the link. It isn't like it is a small sample.


It would just be a defense mechanism preventing me from really seeing it.
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Oct 28 2014 08:55am
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It would just be a defense mechanism preventing me from really seeing it.


I quoted the relevant passage earlier ITT:

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How many non-citizens participate in U.S. elections? More than 14 percent of non-citizens in both the 2008 and 2010 samples indicated that they were registered to vote. Furthermore, some of these non-citizens voted. Our best guess, based upon extrapolations from the portion of the sample with a verified vote, is that 6.4 percent of non-citizens voted in 2008 and 2.2 percent of non-citizens voted in 2010.


Assuming there are approximately 12 million non citizens in the country, roughly 3/4 of a million cast ballots in 2008, a number that fell to closer to 1/4 of a million in the mid-term 2 years later.
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Oct 28 2014 08:31pm
Quote (Santara @ Oct 28 2014 06:42am)
Your inner moron is showing again. If you can do better, hop to it. Because the data presented indicate nearly 3/4 of a million non citizens nationwide voted in 2008, and nearly 1 & 3/4 million are registered to vote.

Is it any wonder why Democrats resist border control furiously?


Why would I need to conduct a better "study" than this heaping pile of shit when I can just leave it to the experts like the Brennan Center to once again confirm what we've long known? When George W. Bush threw a bunch of money into a study of "voter fraud" it predictably came up empty, why would anyone in their right mind think that this punchline is accurate when every previous investigation says (and more importantly, DEMONSTRATES) something different?

We passed this around for a laugh. Now I'm getting a bonus laugh.
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Why would I need to conduct a better "study" than this heaping pile of shit when I can just leave it to the experts like the Brennan Center to once again confirm what we've long known? When George W. Bush threw a bunch of money into a study of "voter fraud" it predictably came up empty, why would anyone in their right mind think that this punchline is accurate when every previous investigation says (and more importantly, DEMONSTRATES) something different?

We passed this around for a laugh. Now I'm getting a bonus laugh.


C'mon, if it's a "heaping pile of shit," don't you take that as a challenge to defecate a 2 ton dump on top of it? Isn't that what you do? Shit everywhere? Once again, the belittler of false equivalencies spews them again. Your studies about voter fraud that focus on citizen fraud =/= a study on non citizen voter fraud.

From the partisan, Soros-funded Brennan Center paper:

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We are not aware of any documented cases in which individual noncitizens have either intentionally registered to vote or voted while knowing that they were ineligible. Given that the penalty (not only criminal prosecution, but deportation) is so severe, and the payoff (one incremental vote) is so minimal for any individual voter, it makes sense that extremely few noncitizens would attempt to vote, knowing that doing so is illegal


This is just BEGGING to be ridiculed, lol. Hack.
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Oct 29 2014 09:38am
Not really sure why we need this thread as everyone knows that voter fraud occurs as often as divine intervention or magical faeiries casting spells on us.
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Oct 29 2014 09:51am
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Not really sure why we need this thread as everyone knows that voter fraud occurs as often as divine intervention or magical faeiries casting spells on us.


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