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Sep 21 2014 10:29pm
Quote (Cellmat @ Sep 22 2014 12:11am)
This claim is really quite untenable.  I know a few people who were raised atheist and have never given any religion a second thought.  Are you really going to claim that they have a more "independent mind" than someone who looked at different religions and chose the one that most appealed to them, despite it being different from the one they were raised in?


Yes obviously, read your post attentively and you will find that you are answering to your own question.

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This claim is really quite untenable.  I know a few people who were raised atheist and have never given any religion a second thought.  Are you really going to claim that they have a more "independent mind" than someone who looked at different religions and chose the one that most appealed to them, despite it being different from the one they were raised in?


let's keep it real pls

there's a reason you only know a few of them

9 out of 10 times you share your parents religion
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Quote (duffman316 @ Sep 22 2014 12:30am)
let's keep it real pls

there's a reason you only know a few of them

9 out of 10 times you share your parents religion


keep it real?
As time progresses his statement is only going to become more and more relevant.
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Yes obviously, read your post attentively and you will find that you are answering to your own question.


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Quote (Tylr @ Sep 22 2014 12:37am)
Elaborate m8


i don't consider someone who is looking for a religion to have an independent mind, being open minded may be more appropriate.



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keep it real?
As time progresses his statement is only going to become more and more relevant.


I don't know, it may be the opposite, having access to massive kind of religions may comfort people even more in there parent's beliefs, do you have any statistics / graphics about this ?

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I don't know, it may be the opposite, having access to massive kind of religions may comfort people even more in there parent's beliefs,  do you have any statistics / graphics about this ?

wait let me try and clarify what I meant
I kind of confused myself


" I know a few people who were raised atheist and have never given any religion a second thought. "

I respond by saying that the first statement is only going to become more and more relevant and common.


I think this is shown, here at least, by the blatant upcoming of liberal atheists in this country, and with their attitudes being shown, they as parents are not going to let their children develop and contemplate the subject of religion independently and without harsh bias and shoving their perspectives down their children's throats. They will bash it, and bash it, and bash it, when they don't even understand what it is they are bashing.

These types of people are incapable of ever discussing religion in an unbiased fashion.


No, I feel no need use stats or graphs on this

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Quote (Tylr @ Sep 22 2014 01:18am)
wait let me try and clarify what I meant
I kind of confused myself


" I know a few people who were raised atheist and have never given any religion a second thought. "

I respond by saying that the first statement is only going to become more and more relevant and common.


I think this is shown, here at least, by the blatant upcoming of liberal atheists in this country, and with their attitudes being shown, they as parents are not going to let their children develop and contemplate the subject of religion independently and without harsh bias and shovingtheir perspectives down their children's throats.  They will bash it, and bash it, and bash it, when they don't even understand what it is they are bashing. 

These types of people are incapable of ever discussing religion in an unbiased fashion.


No, I feel no need use stats or graphs on this


this is hard to understand for me, i am atheist / agnostic because i hear what religious people are saying, and because i read the bible. I don't see how someone can reject God if he never heard about him

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Quote (Tylr @ Sep 22 2014 12:18am)
wait let me try and clarify what I meant
I kind of confused myself


" I know a few people who were raised atheist and have never given any religion a second thought. "

I respond by saying that the first statement is only going to become more and more relevant and common.


I think this is shown, here at least, by the blatant upcoming of liberal atheists in this country, and with their attitudes being shown, they as parents are not going to let their children develop and contemplate the subject of religion independently and without harsh bias and shovingtheir perspectives down their children's throats.  They will bash it, and bash it, and bash it, when they don't even understand what it is they are bashing.

These types of people are incapable of ever discussing religion in an unbiased fashion.


No, I feel no need use stats or graphs on this


supposing this does happen in the future, this would be different from what religious folks do with their children now how?

also you make it sound like being raised in a household where ancient mythology doesn't get brought up is a bad thing


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supposing this does happen in the future, this would be different from what religious folks do with their children now how?

also you make it sound like being raised in a household where ancient mythology doesn't get brought up is a bad thing


I never said I like what religious folks do with their children.
Just letting it be known that people like you (or like you seem) will act no differently in this aspect.


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this is hard to understand for me, i am atheist / agnostic because i hear what religious people are saying, and because i read the bible. I don't see how someone can reject God if he never heard about him


They will hear about religion and God in atheist house holds and in public.
They will ask questions when it is brought up either in the house or outside of the house, and their parents will surely not give an unbiased point of view to their child.
Their parent's will bash religion when it comes up, while they themselves do not understand it.
That is how this wave of atheists are. Angry, with a lack of understanding, and a lack of consideration before responding.
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supposing this does happen in the future, this would be different from what religious folks do with their children now how?

also you make it sound like being raised in a household where ancient mythology doesn't get brought up is a bad thing


Raising a child without ever even mentioning religion and them having to learn that most of the world believes in this thing they've never heard of does not sound like good education.
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Quote (Tylr @ Sep 22 2014 12:49am)
I never said I like what religious folks do with their children. 
Just letting it be known that people like you (or like you seem) will act no differently in this aspect.




They will hear about religion and God in atheist house holds and in public.
They will ask questions when it is brought up either in the house or outside of the house, and their parents will surely not give an unbiased point of view to their child.
Their parent's will bash religion when it comes up, while they themselves do not understand it.
That is how this wave of atheists are.  Angry, with a lack of understanding, and a lack of consideration before responding.


you keep repeating this nonsense as if it's true

considering the vast majority of atheists come from religious households i'm guessing your claim is that if they left christianity they clearly didn't understand it?
as opposed to say understanding it to be the nonsense that it is and that being the reason they left it - but that can't possibly be it right?
again, everthing you've mentioned, christian parents do when islam gets brought up for discussion

Quote (Voyaging @ Sep 22 2014 12:53am)
Raising a child without ever even mentioning religion and them having to learn that most of the world believes in this thing they've never heard of does not sound like good education.


of course they will learn it, god is a simple concept

the specifics of each religion is not useful information that needs to be learned however

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