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Corporal punishment is the tool of the lower classes. In civilised society there is no need for such barbarism and it is right to be named a criminal act and abuse.

Because you'll just explain to a child with the intellectual development of a potato the rational pros and cons of their actions weighted one against each other in a utilitarian philosophy so they can comprehend the ramifications of their actions?
No.

Humans understand pain as a deterrent, that is the entire reason pain exists. The use of pain to condition human behaviour is natural, and to dispense with its need only comes with civilized discourse between enlightened individuals, your "civilized society" something that presumes intellectual capacity of all subjects, something you won't get out of an ickle whiny toerag. There are plenty of tools to use before and in place of pain- positive reinforcement, shouting, loud noises, grounding, etc. But in many cases they are simply ineffective deterrents and there is a palpable need for physical discipline. Like any tool, it can be misused, but with proper adjustment, its corrective applications are unparalleled.

To treat corporal punishment as haraam is to bend over for political correctness in the face of nature, science, tradition and results. It is to take a step backwards and rigorously enforce a culture of coddling that produces a lower quality product, a spoiled brat or burned out druggie where there could have been a nobel laureate or professional athlete.

This post was edited by Goomshill on Sep 17 2014 11:28am

You're such a puss.

Bring back corporal punishment in criminal justice.

People act like mental, emotional, and spiritual abuse is so much more humane than physical abuse.

This post was edited by Skinned on Sep 17 2014 02:04pm

this

outdated methods. Get with the psychology textbooks for learning alternative methods of guiding behavior which are not as ineffective and possibly have unintended side effects

well blacks and black families are most likely to still use corporal punishment today (belt and switch)...and most black men end up in prison and end up as abusers themselves. Interesting thought.

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You can tell how differently people in this thread were raised. I have mixed views on spankings.
Some kids need a spanking while some don't.
When I was growing up, I loved to test the waters of what I could or couldn't get away with. I was given three warnings when i was misbehaving, the 3rd resulted in me picking a switch for myself.
I would get two swift pops with a switch, then my parents would get down to my level and explain to me in a calm but stern voice again what I was doing wrong and why I shouldn't do it.
For me that's how I learned discipline. Some people may call that abuse, but I wouldn't. I never felt abused, or neglected. I just knew "Oh shit I better not act like an idiot again".

It all depends on the child's mentality.

My sister was different, I don't believe she ever once got a spanking or a switch. When she was told she was doing something wrong, she pretty much always quit by her first warning.

Would I ever use a switch on my kids? No. Why? Because I'm scheduled to get a vasectomy in 7 months.

I wouldn't ever tell someone how to raise their kids, because it's not my place.(unless it was obvious abuse and neglect, not discipline in moderation)

Seems like the popular thing these days is everyone wants to tell everyone else how to live. Nobody wants to focus on their own problems.

This post was edited by Belief on Sep 18 2014 02:06pm

I've posted it here before and I'm a phone so km not going to do it right now but research points to exactly what those dang liberals are saying, namely:
-spanking leads children to have trust issues
-spanking leads children to view violence as acceptable
-spanking often leads to full-blown abuse, accidentally or otherwise.