Yeah, slavery.

You are just dense.

Your assertion rests of the premise that raising a child doesn't require intensive labor from the parents, doubly so in the case of a single mother.

Every argument against child support on these threads make it seems that deadbeat fathers who pay child support do a disproportionate amount of work when the labor of the mother who is actually raising the child as well as working is easily doing twice as much as some scumbag who cuts a check and ignores their parentage.

It just makes me think many posters here have negligent mothers given how little they think women do in raising a kid.

It makes me grateful to have had such an awesome mother.

RIP Mom, I miss you.

This post was edited by Skinned on May 19 2013 08:21pm

Mothers DO a lot, however an active father can do just as much, depending on the household this day and age.

Doesn't change the fact men have absolutely no say in in his "future" child. If he doesnt want the child, he'll be supporting it for the next 18 years with garnished wages. If the man is willing to raise the child on his own, the mother still has the option to shit it out like yesterdays garbage.

Men have no say in anything related to the child, although that money-sucking parasite wouldnt have a child to collect welfare checks on if it wasnt for the mean ol' men.

I would be more fine with child support if the father was allowed equal or full custody on demand, this is not the case.
You assume all divorced fathers are dead beats, most of the fathers i know paying child support WANT custody and can not get it, and have mothers sending their child to visit less because that means the father has to pay more.

No need to play the dead parent card, my father died at 43 trying to support a family of 6.

There are many fathers who are denied time to spend with their kid's, statistics show that women almost always get custody and men get stuck with visitation.

This is not an advantage for fathers, indirectly supporting your children without spending any time with them, is NOT acceptable.

Men get the short end of the stick and family court need to be reformed to eliminate favoritism for Women.



This post was edited by killgoreisleet on May 19 2013 08:40pm

I'll agree with this, that fathers should be awarded joint and equal custody unless there is some kind of serious problem...

But i do not agree with taek down here....



I mean they can get out of it by improving their own situation... or they could just not get into the situation in the first place, which is a very large part of this argument...

they made the choice knowing the consequences, so did the mother so she has to deal with that, but if it weren't for child support then the father would have no negative affects for knocking up a girl.. i'm not saying the child support program is perfect as is, but i also cannot say that making child support payments is the same as a mother carrying a child for 9 months and then raising it afterwards.... and i can't believe you think that's the case... unless of course you don't know what happens to a female body during pregnancy and after

Their tits get bigger, I'd stick around for that, yo.

I don't know if getting ripped in half is worth bigger boobs.

But she doesn't, that's the point. She can just kill the kid to escape the consequences, regardless of what the man wants.