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Apr 27 2011 05:39pm
Quote (MewKitten @ Apr 26 2011 01:44am)
I believe that the monetary system itself is a primitive system.
We easily have enough resources to keep expanding our technology and make it so -nobody- suffers, -nobody- starves.
Our monetary system holds us back, so we cannot start this progress.
Many sources of energy are available.
Nuclear, hydrogen and such are highly inefficient and create byproducts, and also need invested energy.
solar energy has enough power in 1 hour at noon to meet the world's power consumption of a year. if we can catch 1% of this energy, we would never need oil again.
also there is wind..if wind is fully harvested in 3 us states, the us would be fully powered.
tidal power produces some power, as does wave power.
and then there's geothermal, using only water it can produce a lot of clean energy.
earth contains 13000 zj of power available, and 2000 zj is easily tappable with slightly improved technique.
Earth's power usage a year is .5 zj
earth's heat energy is constantly renewed so this power source is limitless.
why do we not convert to this system?
in return we can continue to advance technologically without being held back, and war would be essentially unnecessary.
the problem with with the monetary system comes from the fact that we need intelligent resource management, and personal interest of the wealthy distracts the money from where it is needed.
where are the downfalls of this system? not nearly as many as our current system, the obvious ones are removed.


edit, not 1% of solar energy, 1/100th of 1%

also

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w7D_h5a4EEk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f2gLfkGs7Jo&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JMnuVJbEsSE&feature=related
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we have neither the technology or availability to harness these "clean forms of energy" in an efficient and productive way... were trying to do what Spain has done with renewable energy after we saw what Spain has done has failed horribly... At the current time it is a huge waste of money.. how long will it take for a windmill to pay for itself and how long will it last for?. I don't mean to ask you what you thought about the marriage of GE and the government GE lining itself up with every possible piece of climate control legislation to get all the money, having to pay no taxes for " researching green energy " when they damn well plan to be in line to get all the dollars if they get here way.... For the time being we should have been self sufficient but that wouldn't play into anyones hands now would it. Ten, twenty years from now when the means are available abundant and cost effective it will be a viable option but right now It looks as if we are smothering out any chance of that happening in the future
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Apr 28 2011 01:43am
Quote (larkdalecrew3 @ Apr 28 2011 02:36am)
we have neither the technology or availability to harness these "clean forms of energy" in an efficient and productive way... were trying to do what Spain has done with renewable energy after we saw what Spain has done has failed horribly... At the current time it is a huge waste of money.. how long will it take for a windmill to pay for itself and how long will it last for?. I don't mean to ask you what you thought about the marriage of GE and the government GE lining itself up with every possible piece of climate control legislation to get all the money, having to pay no taxes for " researching green energy " when they damn well plan to be in line to get all the dollars if they get here way.... For the time being we should have been self sufficient but that wouldn't play into anyones hands now would it. Ten, twenty years from now when the means are available abundant and cost effective it will be a viable option but right now It looks as if we are smothering out any chance of that happening in the future


It wouldn't take long to develop such technology ;) If we put our minds/resources to it correctly
and I agree with you on the last part, sadly.
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Apr 28 2011 02:48am
Quote (MewKitten @ Apr 26 2011 04:49am)
Cities could be self-sustaining; with food, production, residential, power, recreational, social and education dedicated areas alligned in belts, and is both innerly connected and externally connected with other cites with the same functions.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/14/Fresco_circular_city.jpg/200px-Fresco_circular_city.jpg
http://i583.photobucket.com/albums/ss279/Ponsavanh/WebofResourceBasedEconomicalCities.jpg

The food would be easily produced by 50+ story buildings using non-soil bases and take a lot less space.
These hydroponic and aeroponic agricultural bases reduce nutrients needs and water needed by 75%, while also removing the poisoning agents of insecticides (which show up in every living person, even infants)

http://i583.photobucket.com/albums/ss279/Ponsavanh/HydroponicAeroponicAgriculture.jpg


why would you want to have self sustaining cities?


simple theories on comparative advantages show that the world produces more when it works together




and Lol at the original post... it is just taking something simple (expanding money supply) and making it look complicated (2 lines totally unnecessary.)

This post was edited by buttersdan on Apr 28 2011 02:50am
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Apr 28 2011 12:51pm
Quote (buttersdan @ Apr 28 2011 03:48am)
why would you want to have self sustaining cities?


simple theories on comparative advantages show that the world produces more when it works together




and Lol at the original post... it is just taking something simple (expanding money supply) and making it look complicated (2 lines totally unnecessary.)


The cities would be interconnected like a web, and would be working together.
and I won't even justify the second comment with a reply
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Quote (MewKitten @ Apr 26 2011 04:09pm)
http://www.financialsensearchive.com/editorials/hodges/2006/images/0106_3i.gif

Why must our government host this corrupt, money hungry system?

After Woodrow Wilson signed into law the Federal Reserve System :

I am a most unhappy man. I have unwittingly ruined my country. A great industrial nation is controlled by its system of credit. Our system of credit is concentrated. The growth of the nation, therefore, and all our activities  are in the hands of a few men  . We have come to be one of the worst ruled, one of the most completely controlled and dominated governments in the civilized world. No longer a government by free opinion, no longer a government by conviction and the vote of the majority, but a government by the opinion and duress of a small group of dominant men.
 
~ Woodrow Wilson

How can we appeal to have this removed? it takes 35% of our paychecks to host and it just ends up making our money worth less! It's a system -made- to profit them and we do not need it!
Last couple people who tried were assassinated, including JFK (in some people eyes, idk for myself. but in the weeks before he was pushing to oust it. Same with other people of power.)



why would this small group of dominant men wish anything to change ?
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Apr 29 2011 12:54pm
Quote (Matao @ Apr 29 2011 05:05am)
why would this small group of dominant men wish anything to change ?


The problem is that if anything changed it would be in their favor, therefore this whole argument is invalid, sadly. I thought the people were supposed to have the power in a democracy :cry:
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Apr 29 2011 05:35pm
Nothing wrong with the Fed, go.
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Apr 29 2011 07:49pm
Quote (PlasmaSnake101 @ Apr 29 2011 06:35pm)
Nothing wrong with the Fed, go.


Why is this?
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Apr 29 2011 07:57pm
Quote (MewKitten @ Apr 29 2011 05:49pm)
Why is this?


Benanke is a smart man and we've seen outrageously fine growth with the Fed ever since we came out of WWII. Decades of growth with little hiccups of a year or two, well, until now.
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