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Jan 28 2025 07:53pm
Yes. Do you truly believe trying to push through a police barrier warrants more than 4 years hard time? Same with trespassing and vandalism. And if you do believe this, you would also believe it's an injustice that no one who committed those very same crimes have been charged for the summer of love riots.


I didn’t say all. I said the violent ones. And yes I do. If you commit any type of forceful act against a government or authority you deserve harsher punishment than a traditional “trespass”.

If they just “walked in” after someone else forced their way in cool. But if you were the forceful ones no mercy.

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Jan 28 2025 07:56pm
Credible-enough in the sense of "if the capitol police officer who shot her were tried, the jury would either buy his claim of self-defense and acquit, or convict him of lower-degree manslaughter, but definitely not first or second degree murder".

If Biden & the murderer had your confidence, he wouldn't have been pardoned. It was cut and dry second degree murder.


there is film of the ashli babbitt murder. it was filmed by or in the same crowd (cant remember his name) later when i have time i will dig it out and post it here.

let me say what i say like a million of times before. once you expose a leftie fraud and their lies its not over. leftie frauds will always come back and rework the same lie
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Jan 28 2025 08:03pm
I didn’t say all. I said the violent ones. And yes I do. If you commit any type of forceful act against a government or authority you deserve harsher punishment than a traditional “trespass”.

If they just “walked in” after someone else forced their way in cool. But if you were the forceful ones no mercy.


What you're describing is a tyrannical police state. You believe the same for all the whackjob black & other "protestors" over the decades? The prisons would be full of noncrime offenders. Shuffling with a cop isn't "violence". If anyone fired upon or drew a blade against a cop, then I agree.

And most of them did just walk in and many were LED in by police officers. Its all on video. Only a handful of people breached any barriers

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Jan 28 2025 08:29pm
What you're describing is a tyrannical police state. You believe the same for all the whackjob black & other "protestors" over the decades? The prisons would be full of noncrime offenders. Shuffling with a cop isn't "violence". If anyone fired upon or drew a blade against a cop, then I agree.

And most of them did just walk in and many were LED in by police officers. Its all on video. Only a handful of people breached any barriers


Absolutely! BLM burning down neighborhoods and such? Absolutely. Trying to catch me being partisan or something? I’m not sure your aim here but I’m trying to hear you out.

Any physical contact by anyone in an aggressive manner against a cop is violence. For instance. Did you know if someone bars your way or pushes past you physically in a threatening manner it’s a crime? Perception of a threat plays into any conviction and rightfully so.
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Jan 28 2025 08:31pm
The only reason to preemptively pardon (which is unprecedented and very likely unconstitutional, need SCOTUS judgment here) someone is that they were going to be indicted and convicted.

That's simply not true. It means that the president issuing the preemptive pardon assumed that they were going to be prosecuted by his successor. Nothing more, nothing less.
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Jan 28 2025 09:01pm
That's simply not true. It means that the president issuing the preemptive pardon assumed that they were going to be prosecuted by his successor. Nothing more, nothing less.


I assume nothing, guilt is already established by SCOTUS. I assume conviction only *if* he chooses to prosecute in the absence of a pardon.
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Jan 28 2025 09:05pm
Absolutely! BLM burning down neighborhoods and such? Absolutely. Trying to catch me being partisan or something? I’m not sure your aim here but I’m trying to hear you out.

Any physical contact by anyone in an aggressive manner against a cop is violence. For instance. Did you know if someone bars your way or pushes past you physically in a threatening manner it’s a crime? Perception of a threat plays into any conviction and rightfully so.


Then you may agree that in the absence of prior justice for the 2020 pogroms, the cruel & unusual punishment of the entire lot of so-called J6ers is a crime committed against themselves, by the state, of two-tiered justice, that which can only be rectified by a full unconditional pardon.
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Then you may agree that in the absence of prior justice for the 2020 pogroms, the cruel & unusual punishment of the entire lot of so-called J6ers is a crime committed against themselves, by the state, of two-tiered justice, that which can only be rectified by a full unconditional pardon.


Two wrongs don’t make a right.
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Jan 28 2025 11:22pm
The ones committing violent insurrection and assault of an officer? Absolutely. 20+


Should Tim Kaine's son Linwood Kaine have received 20+ years in prison for his attack on the MN capitol in 2016?

We dont throw first time offenders in prison for 20 years for misdemeanor assaults and low level brawling violence. Poking an officer with a stick is not as heinous as murdering a hitchhiker

Riots and disorder don't give any excuse to politically motivated draconian sentencing. People have to be judged on their own actions and choices and given sentences as anyone else would. A crime normally punished by probation and a warning or small fine, doesn't become equivalent to cold blooded deadly violence

The real attack is on our first amendment. This is all just an excuse to lock people up for their political assembly
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