It took the two of you two weeks to produce that shit-can response? Holy shit lmao

I already know you are a lib-tard so I'm not faulting you for not looking at the patents I posted, the government acknowledgment of SAI's, and a 3 hour documentary that proves with science/logic it's happening. You took 11 days to "respond" but in those 11 days you looked up none of the FACTS I shared. Your response even includes the suggestion I think the election is being stolen? Keep reaching for straws bud everyone on this sub-forum knows who is "well-read" in this subject and who is not. Way to make geoengineering "political" when it's not. You and gnarjay must be great friends lmao

I did not get butthurt don't know what you are talking about? The "physics" of what? Me joking and being serious that when everyone is wearing a mask in a grocery store that they are not protected from tranmission? The mask would have to be 100% effective and it's been proven again and again it's not. If you want to believe in your head that you wearing 2x masks reduces transmission by 15% per layer(or whatever you want to make believe in your head and makes you feel safe that's fine. When I said "particles you breathe are moving around at the speed of light" I was making a JOKE about the "science" which is FLAWED and INACCUARATE. Just like the vaccine "science" which like I said to you went through NONE of the proper long term studies(not even short term studies were concluded) and people like yourselves and others(my own family included) were naive and gullible enough to take an untested inoculation. The fact you have a doctorate in "something" and can't understand that Trump's "Warpspeed" vaccine allowed the FDA and the vaccine makers themselves to be VOL(Void of Litigation). THEY CAN"T BE SUED if someone is damaged by the vaccine and people HAVE BEEN.

You both are ignorant of SRM/SAI as well as geoengineering patents which go back decades. I don't care if you don't believe the government can change the trajectory/intensity of a hurricane when I've seen the patents that show it can and has.

If you are unwilling to respond to me with science negating what I shared then don't think attacking "me" is going to make you look smart. It makes you both look ignorant.

You know NOTHING of "atmospheric science" stop pretending like you do bud. I've done the research you haven't and it shows.

edit: All things vary in "degree" and not of "kind". If someone asks me can the government manipulate a hurricane my answer is "YES" why? The government told us this and gave us the patents/government projects proving it and that was 70 years ago lol? That's what I shared with you guys. Their science. Not mine. Am I saying that the government can make a hurricane "stop on a dot" and then "change direction and go backwards". No that's not what I'm saying stop putting words in my mouth. If our government can change the trajectory even 1 degree that's still changing it's direction is it not?

https://history.state.gov/historicaldocuments/frus1964-68v28/d274

We made the monsoon season longer in Vietnam using cloud-seeding. That was 70 years ago.

https://www.aoml.noaa.gov/hurricane_blog/70th-anniversary-of-the-first-hurricane-seeding-experiment/

We made a hurricane take a "hard right" by dumping "dry ice" into the eye of the hurricane. That was 70 years ago.

The US military doesn't have to tell you what they are doing and researching it's up to you as a citizen to research it and be proactive against it when it's destroying the health of the entire web of life.

Because I know it's happening and I can see the results with my own eyes it'd be very hard(impossible) for you or anyone else to convince me otherwise. Which is why I'm asking you to negate my argument not me as a person.

This post was edited by SwamiVivekananda on Oct 31 2024 09:02am

What research did you do personally? Please cite scientific journals - I know you feel too smart for those, but it is impossible to follow your train of thought without them. I am not warching a two hour "documentation" by some random conspiracy theorist, I will read a paper though.

*Speed of sound and I am 100% convinced you believed that due to poor understanding of physics. But sure, if everything that makes you look like an idiot is just unmarked sacrasm that looks exactly like the things you totally mean I can hardly argue with that.

Masks are not 100% effective and nobody ever claimed that (at least I didn't). Did you construct that strawmen in your head? They reduce transmissions, see doctors wearing them for centuries by now. So in a global pandemic it might be wise to wear a mask at literally no cost to yourself to limit transmissions.

I took two weeks because this forum is filled with Dunning Kruger trolls. I actually come here to laugh at how mis guided people like you are and hanging out in you tube is somehow doing research. Lib tard ? Lol good one bro. I’ll come back in a few days to laugh at how self diluted you are.

Everyone on this sub forum has this opinion of you because it's almost like one day you wake up and decide I'm just going to troll users I think are conservative. Never even form an argument just name call and dodge a treasure trove of data I threw at you. Like I said keep reaching for straws bud.



I edited my post already. Please re-read.

Human beings didn't evolve to "wear a mask" we were given this thing called an "immune system" for FREE and if you take care of it and your body you don't need a mask or a vaccine and that's proven science. Natural immunity >>> vaccine.

The only argument you could make there is that Covid-19 was made in a weapons lab in Wuhan, China and so they already had a "version of the vaccine" being developed. This would explain how they came up with a vaccine in "miraculous time". Remember how Trump said he cured Covid because he was the first to get vaccines to the "people"?

The sole reason I was against people taking it back then was because our own government didn't do long term studies on the vaccines and they rushed it to production(on a mass scale). The whole idea that they could administer billions of vaccines worldwide and there be "less adverse events" is patently false and like I said view VAERS(vaccine adverse events reporting system" to see the "numbers" my friend.

More people were harmed by the Covid vaccine then all other vaccines ever "created and approved" by our government COMBINED. It's not just the large number of people who agreed to take it that make that statistical gap(that would be a statistical bias).

For a person who is a statistician it seems like you took all the science/data they gave you during Covid and you haven't updated your "numbers" to reflect what we now "know today" about Covid and the Covid vaccine. There is a reason vaccine manufactures our being sued in countries outside the US. Because they can.

edit: It's real simple to see now that the governments around the world made Covid seem like the "black plague" and we were all going to die. It wasn't lethal at all. They knew what Covid-19 was from the get-go and lied and pretended they didn't. They also forced/mandated/coerced people who were HEALTHY into taking something that they as a "human being" have a RIGHT to say no too. The problem then becomes most people who are healthy and don't feel like they need the vaccine were coerced into taking something they didn't need. Kids/teens don't need it but they said they needed it to go to school.

Now you see commercials about getting your Covid vaccine/Flu shot at the same time. Do you know how many people are still scared of Covid and will get their booster even though their natural immunity should be able to defend themselves or are we going to talk about how getting multiple Covid vaccines+ boosters didn't stop people from getting Covid and in some cases made their symptom worse.

Covid-19 was void of science and you telling me the science supports what you are saying is foolish. You are essentially agreeing with the same people who lied to you and moved the goal posts down the field as Covid wen't on. That's because you are a doctor and trust your government. I do not.

This post was edited by SwamiVivekananda on Oct 31 2024 09:23am

Thanks for providing sources. If you finish reading your second source (the one about hurricanes) it goes on that the results of the one "successfull" trial you reference were not reproducible and probably just random, not the effect of human intervention. Did you finish reading the article or did you give up after the three initial paragraphs supporting your theory?

The other one appears to be someone from the military explaining that the cloud seeding he had done totally worked super awesomely (correct me if I am wrong, I have no real experience in reading those documents, just scientific papers). It doesn't provide any numbers and there is a very high intrinsic motivation to .. lets say exegerate the effects (given I understand the context correctly) but it does say what you claim it does. Notably scientists publishing about it could not find as great as an effect as the person responsible for using taxpayer money to conduct those tests, make of that what you will.

Edit: not sure why you are going about COVID, that is a topic that seems to bother you greatly in your daily life.

"Human beings didn't evolve to "wear a mask" we were given this thing called an "immune system" for FREE and if you take care of it and your body you don't need a mask or a vaccine and that's proven science. Natural immunity >>> vaccine."

I just want to point out what an insane take that is. You should take medication if applicable, wear glasses when you need them and get your kids the recommended vaccine shots (even Swami implicitly tells you they are super safe! Contracting Polio or measles is not).

Having different sample sizes is not a bias, please stop using words you do not understand, it is making me angry.

Edit: while i disagree with most on your views, I wanted to say that I do agree on that: "The problem then becomes most people who are healthy and don't feel like they need the vaccine were coerced into taking something they didn't need. Kids/teens don't need it but they said they needed it to go to school."



This post was edited by SkySwallower on Oct 31 2024 09:34am

So are you saying during Project Popeye we didn't make the monsoon season longer to prevent the North Vietnamese troops from moving down the Ho Chi Minh Trail?

So are you saying that during Project Cirrus we didn't dump a few tons of "dry-ice" into the eye of a hurricane and make it veer hard right?

I used two examples from the 1950's-1980's there are plenty more I can sight the point I'm making/asking is that do you really think in the 75 years since then that they didn't PERFECT weather modification or get better at it?

I'll wait.

Oh man I spit my coffee out a couple of times reading this

These ex military guys making fantastic claims generally boil down to "NEW INFO COMING IN TWO WEEKS THAT WILL CHANGE EVERYTHING, BUY MY BOOK!"

1. If that is the Event referenced in your source it literally says in the article that it was not reproducible and happens naturally, i.e. poor understanding of hurricanes at the time made people think it was successfull - ill ask again did your finish the article you personally linked?

2. I can not find any real data about operation popeye besides the claims of the person responsible for it. If you have other examples that are actually documented, please share

This post was edited by SkySwallower on Oct 31 2024 09:31am

I take medications and wear glasses stop comparing what's normal and has decades of research behind it with "Covid". They are not comparable at all. You are creating a straw-man again and dodging the science I keep sharing.

Explain how our government came up with the Covid vaccine and did long term studies between 2019-2020 and 2022 when the FDA's own definition for long term studies tends to be 10+ years?

Explain to me why our government is "VOL" when it comes to Covid vaccines(I'll let you tell me since I told you)?

Explain to me why Covid vaccines have created the most "adverse events" every recorded by VAERS?

That is antithetical to science and unethical all around. How come millions of other people just like me found it "extremely strange" that one minute we were all going to die from Covid then became "We have a cure".

Constantly you and others said "I don't follow the science" but all I do is study science/logic and I'm telling you where the "gaping holes" are in your science. Stop name calling me and negate what I'm saying.

edit: I didn' take THIS vaccine because it wasn't properly tested(short/long term) and that is my MAIN reason. You cannot negate the fact I was around Covid the entire time building natural immunity as people around me "supposedly" had it. I never got sick and yet people around me who got the vaccine got sick. I'd have to be legally blind to not see that. When people fear for their lives they'll do anything. You are one of those people who had such a fear you took an untested product and I'm sorry to be the one to tell you that. Vaccines are safe and effective when they go through the proper long term studies. The Covid vaccines did not stop lying to yourself.

This post was edited by SwamiVivekananda on Oct 31 2024 09:42am