Quote (IceMage @ May 31 2024 02:14am)

As a seasoned political observer the last 10 years the clearest sign someone is politically biased and unknowledgeable is if they claim that Russiagate was an injustice against Trump. This applies to 8/10 Trump supporters on this forum, lol.

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After four years, we finally have the full 316-page report from Justice Department special counsel John Durham, and it’s a damning indictment of some of our country’s leading institutions.

Durham said the FBI should have never launched an investigation into alleged Russian collusion with Donald Trump’s 2016 campaign, given the slim evidence.

That is a huge win for Trump, who has for years called out his unfair treatment by the FBI – and a media all too willing to find blame in the former president’s actions.

The investigation into the "collusion" clouded Trump’s entire presidency, and Democrats harnessed the tale to paint Trump as an illegitimate president.

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“...We conclude that the Department and the FBI failed to uphold their important mission of strict fidelity to the law in connection with certain events and activities described in this report,” Durham wrote.
Durham also called out the role of the (now-discredited) Steele dossier, the opposition research gathered for the Hillary Clinton campaign that was in turn given to the FBI. Durham said the dossier was “unvetted and unverified,” yet was used as justification for surveillance.

“Indeed, based on the evidence gathered in multiple exhaustive and costly federal investigations of these matters, including the instant investigation, neither U.S. law enforcement nor the Intelligence Community appears to have possessed any actual evidence of collusion in their holdings at the commencement of the Crossfire Hurricane investigation," the report stated.

The political implications are clear, and the report highlights the favoritism shown to the Clinton campaign over Trump’s.

As Durham details, the FBI fumbled the “collusion” investigation. But mainstream media outlets also deserve blame for breathlessly going along with the Trump-Russia allegations.
The willingness to report negative rumors about Trump is in direct contrast to how the news media have protected President Joe Biden and his family.

For example, when the New York Post broke the Hunter Biden laptop story in October 2020, ahead of the presidential election, the rest of the media pretty much ignored it. Twitter even suspended the Post’s account for sharing its news reports. Emails from the laptop indicated Hunter Biden had used his dad’s position as vice president for his personal gain.


The story was slammed by Democrats and the media as Russian “disinformation.”

Nearly two years later, however, news organizations outside the right-leaning press finally admitted that the substance of the laptop story was real.

Quote (Pyrotechx @ May 31 2024 02:38am)

See, you just choose to not read everything. That same document states that multiple Trump administration were in contact with Russia, and that Russia was actively interfering in the election, and you can guess for who. Take a guess, maybe Trump? Ding ding ding. So, you cling on to that little sentence that Trump wasn't directly tied to working with Russia, even though a lot of his administration was... but no no, no collusion at all ;)

As for the blm/antifa stuff, if rioters did get involved (and it was found out that a lot of riots were started by right wing extremists), then I do believe they should be prosecuted, so nice try there. Also, if you're not antifa then you're a fascist, so which are you?

Again, proud boys are terrorists, and I didn't see any blm trying to overthrow the govt on Jan 6th.

So yea, don't post any stats or sources, cause you know you'll lose that debate.

Quote (IceMage @ May 31 2024 08:14am)

As a seasoned political observer the last 10 years the clearest sign someone is politically biased and unknowledgeable is if they claim that Russiagate was an injustice against Trump. This applies to 8/10 Trump supporters on this forum, lol.

Quote (Pyrotechx @ May 31 2024 12:38am)

See, you just choose to not read everything. That same document states that multiple Trump administration were in contact with Russia, and that Russia was actively interfering in the election, and you can guess for who. Take a guess, maybe Trump? Ding ding ding. So, you cling on to that little sentence that Trump wasn't directly tied to working with Russia, even though a lot of his administration was... but no no, no collusion at all ;)

As for the blm/antifa stuff, if rioters did get involved (and it was found out that a lot of riots were started by right wing extremists), then I do believe they should be prosecuted, so nice try there. Also, if you're not antifa then you're a fascist, so which are you?

Again, proud boys are terrorists, and I didn't see any blm trying to overthrow the govt on Jan 6th.

So yea, don't post any stats or sources, cause you know you'll lose that debate.

Quote (cambovenzi @ May 31 2024 01:59am)

Being in contact with people from russia isnt a crime and doesnt prove a criminal conspiracy with their government.
You fell hook line and sinker for democrat propaganda. 'Omg russia russia russia' after they lose an election. Even years after it was proven to be predicated on fraud and the investigations flopped, you still believe the democrat think tank's propaganda.

If im not antifa im a fascist? That is an extreme and juvenile level of idiocy.
'We call ourselves the good guys so everyone else are the bad guys. im so smart!' Meme.
While you are out here simping for the democrats and their corrupt politicial prosecutions, i radically oppose government authoritarianism.

No amount of word games and supporting violent communists will change the fact that they did much more damage and attacked far more innocent people thean the proud boys. You were wrong.

Quote (Pyrotechx @ May 31 2024 03:06am)

Lol, you literally wrote all of that, and in the same article about Russia, it states that it was accurate in that there was russian interference and Trump admins did collude with them. Your article literally states that it was a shitshow because some didn't follow proper procedures. Imagine being like, "yea, the cops caught the killer, but they didn't read him his rights so he is free! Yay!"

That's you.

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And imagine that you can't even answer a simple question, because it'll play against your narrative. It's not hard. You're either antifa or you're not. You just want to seem like some edgy person "I'm against gubment authoritarianism!" While at the same time you're probably perfectly OK with book bans, gay marriage bans, lgbtq bans, contraception bans, and abortion bans. But hey, don't let that authoritarian gubment tell you Trump is in it with Russia. You showed them.

Quote (Volcano @ May 31 2024 02:38am)

Yo legit question here though, why didn't Mr and Mrs Clinton get prosecuted for all the horrendous stuff they've done in the past but they find Trump guilty here right before an election? Can anyone explain?