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Dec 24 2023 07:02pm
Quote (JessiWan @ Dec 24 2023 04:59pm)
It is not testimony because his grandpa didn't swear under oath to tell the truth. He didn't swear, either. Both of them could be lying and there is no way for me to know.


Ah, full circle!
You don't have to swear under anything to make a testimonial/testimony.

Weather or not you believe it doesn't make it not one.
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Dec 24 2023 07:03pm
Quote (aj502 @ Dec 24 2023 05:02pm)
Ah, full circle!
You don't have to swear under anything to make a testimonial/testimony.

Weather or not you believe it doesn't make it not one.


You don't have to swear to make a testimonial. But for testimony, you do.
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Dec 24 2023 07:05pm
Lol..

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Quote (JessiWan @ Dec 24 2023 05:03pm)
You don't have to swear to make a testimonial. But for testimony, you do.


But a testimonial is the reference to one making a testimony.
Seems like a paradox there.

Hence me requesting the multiple definitions of each.

You're seriously arguing this?
Amusing.
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Dec 24 2023 07:10pm
Quote (aj502 @ Dec 24 2023 05:07pm)
But a testimonial is the reference to one making a testimony.
Seems like a paradox there.

Hence me requesting the multiple definitions of each.

You're seriously arguing this?
Amusing.
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Yes I am. Educating ignorant people about the difference between English words that sound similar but are actually different, is worthwhile to me.

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Quote (JessiWan @ Dec 24 2023 05:10pm)
Yes I am. Educating ignorant people about the difference between English words that sound similar but are actually different, is worthwhile to me.

So you're trying to educate the people at Merriam Webster?
Cripes...Silly to have to do this but it appears 8 of the 9 definitions do not mention an "oath" and the one that mentions it doesn't say it is a requirement.

testimonial
1 of 2
noun
1a: a statement testifying to benefits received
b: a character reference : letter of recommendation
2: an expression of appreciation : TRIBUTE
3: EVIDENCE, TESTIMONY

testimonial
2 of 2
adjective
1: of, relating to, or constituting testimony
2: expressive of appreciation or esteem

testimony
noun
1a: a solemn declaration usually made orally by a witness under oath in response to interrogation by a lawyer or authorized public official
b: firsthand authentication of a fact : EVIDENCE
c: an outward sign
2a: an open acknowledgment
b: a public profession of religious experience
3a(1): the tablets inscribed with the Mosaic law
(2): the ark containing the tablets
b: a divine decree attested in the Scriptures

Sounds more like you're trying to substantiate something like saying, "My Flat Earth Society has members all around the globe...".
Or just arguing for the sake of arguing...
:D

Anyways...
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Lol..


Agreed...Some people, right?
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Dec 24 2023 07:39pm
Quote (aj502 @ Dec 24 2023 05:36pm)
So you're trying to educate the people at Merriam Webster?
Cripes...Silly to have to do this but it appears 8 of the 9 definitions do not mention an "oath" and the one that mentions it doesn't say it is a requirement.

testimonial
1 of 2
noun
1a: a statement testifying to benefits received
b: a character reference : letter of recommendation
2: an expression of appreciation : TRIBUTE
3: EVIDENCE, TESTIMONY

testimonial
2 of 2
adjective
1: of, relating to, or constituting testimony
2: expressive of appreciation or esteem

testimony
noun
1a: a solemn declaration usually made orally by a witness under oath in response to interrogation by a lawyer or authorized public official
b: firsthand authentication of a fact : EVIDENCE
c: an outward sign
2a: an open acknowledgment
b: a public profession of religious experience
3a(1): the tablets inscribed with the Mosaic law
(2): the ark containing the tablets
b: a divine decree attested in the Scriptures

Sounds more like you're trying to substantiate something like saying, "My Flat Earth Society has members all around the globe...".
Or just arguing for the sake of arguing...
:D

Anyways...


I am not trying to educate people at Merriam Webster. I am trying to educate you. Apparently, you think that a testimonial is the reference to one making a testimony. I mean lmao!

Btw, nice effort that you put in. I can see that this exchange is really important to you.
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Quote (JessiWan @ Dec 24 2023 05:39pm)
Apparently, you think that a testimonial is the reference to one making a testimony. I mean lmao!

testimonial
1 of 2
noun
1a: a statement testifying to benefits received
b: a character reference : letter of recommendation
2: an expression of appreciation : TRIBUTE
3: EVIDENCE, TESTIMONY

adjective
1: of, relating to, or constituting testimony

Yea, my bad...
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Quote (aj502 @ Dec 24 2023 05:44pm)
testimonial
1 of 2
noun
1a: a statement testifying to benefits received
b: a character reference : letter of recommendation
2: an expression of appreciation : TRIBUTE
3: EVIDENCE, TESTIMONY

adjective
1: of, relating to, or constituting testimony

Yea, my bad...
:P


The Merriam Webster lists all the definitions for a word. Some of them are dated and not in modern usage. In the context of this thread, when you said that the stuff that poster's grandpa told him is a testimonial, what you really meant is that it's a testimony. Apparently these two words confuse you, which I don't blame you for. It's a mistake that even a native speaker can make.

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