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Aug 17 2023 08:14am
Quote (Black XistenZ @ Aug 16 2023 11:36pm)
"Vote blue no matter who".
There has never been organic, grassroots support for her - which is why the DNC had to rig the 2016 primaries in her favor to keep Bernie at bay, lmao!


his statement was she has ZERO supporters.. the election numbers would prove otherwise.
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Aug 17 2023 09:33am
Quote (Black XistenZ @ Aug 17 2023 01:36am)
"Vote blue no matter who".
There has never been organic, grassroots support for her - which is why the DNC had to rig the 2016 primaries in her favor to keep Bernie at bay, lmao!


there was a wing of DNC voters who were all in on HRC due to "finally a woman president" support, but the support was shallow and not based on supporting her policy platform or even historical knowledge of her political career. and along those same lines there was base level support for her due to stability, basically holdover support from Bill AND holdover support because she served in Obama's cabinet.

and in any case IMO bernie would have gotten beat in general election, and HRC only lost due to moves she and the DNC made well after bernie was toast. lack of campaigning in battleground states, etc. in short i dont think ousting bernie was the wrong move, nor was HRC as unpopular as she appears through rose tinted glasses. she just had an utter lack of excitement, as she wasnt a change candidate. but excitement isnt required to win elections, just as Carter, Reagan, Bush Sr, Bush Jr, etc.
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Aug 17 2023 04:38pm


Hillary was a witch with only one concern... money. Hers, not ours.
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Quote (Ghot @ Aug 17 2023 03:38pm)
Hillary was a witch with only one concern... money. Hers, not ours.


you say that like the Trump administration wasnt chock-full of nepotism and backdoor deals to enrich his family. FOH
people are crying about Hunter Biden smoking crack and making 10 or 20 million while Ivanka and Jared raked in HUNDREDS of millions

This post was edited by gnarjay on Aug 17 2023 04:42pm
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you say that like the Trump administration wasnt chock-full of nepotism and backdoor deals to enrich his family. FOH
people are crying about Hunter Biden smoking crack and making 10 or 20 million while Ivanka and Jared raked in HUNDREDS of millions




Hunter WAS in cahoots with Ukraine. Hillary WAS in cahoots with Russia.
Don't need that crap in the US. ^^
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Aug 17 2023 05:03pm
Quote (Ghot @ Aug 17 2023 03:52pm)
Hunter WAS in cahoots with Ukraine. Hillary WAS in cahoots with Russia.
Don't need that crap in the US. ^^


anything to back up the Hillary claim?
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Aug 17 2023 05:23pm
Quote (Ghot @ Aug 17 2023 03:38pm)
Hillary was a witch with only one concern... money. Hers, not ours.


Trump was a witch with only one concern... money. His, not ours

Quote (Ghot @ Aug 17 2023 03:52pm)
Hunter WAS in cahoots with Ukraine. Hillary WAS in cahoots with Russia.
Don't need that crap in the US. ^^


Jared WAS in cahoots with the Saudis. Trump WAS in cahoots with Russia.
Don't need that crap in the US. ^^
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Aug 17 2023 05:31pm
Quote (thesnipa @ 17 Aug 2023 17:33)
there was a wing of DNC voters who were all in on HRC due to "finally a woman president" support, but the support was shallow and not based on supporting her policy platform or even historical knowledge of her political career. and along those same lines there was base level support for her due to stability, basically holdover support from Bill AND holdover support because she served in Obama's cabinet.

and in any case IMO bernie would have gotten beat in general election, and HRC only lost due to moves she and the DNC made well after bernie was toast. lack of campaigning in battleground states, etc. in short i dont think ousting bernie was the wrong move, nor was HRC as unpopular as she appears through rose tinted glasses. she just had an utter lack of excitement, as she wasnt a change candidate. but excitement isnt required to win elections, just as Carter, Reagan, Bush Sr, Bush Jr, etc.


Oh, I believe that Hilary would have squeaked by against Bernie in a fair primary. But the DNC clearly didn't want to risk a bruising, dragged out primary which shines even more light on her weaknesses. It's still indicative of her weakness as a candidate that she struggled this much with Bernie in spite of all the institutional support behind her.

Regarding the campaigning in the Rust Belt... it's a common talking point, but I'm not entirely sure that her rallies and speeches would have done her any favor in places like MI or WI. I watched one or two of her rallies back then and they were chock-full with feminist and racial pandering - not exactly themes that would have struck a chord with Obama-Trump voters.
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Aug 17 2023 06:02pm
Quote (gnarjay @ Aug 17 2023 07:03pm)
anything to back up the Hillary claim?




This stuff is all posted numerous times in here.

Uranium One for example.
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Aug 17 2023 06:04pm
Quote (Ghot @ Aug 17 2023 05:02pm)
This stuff is all posted numerous times in here.

Uranium One for example.


ok so nothing, what i figured. what about trump and russia? trump and N korea? or how about trump and china?
jared and the saudis???
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