Some countries don't put cameras everywhere but they still have pretty low rates of violent crimes. It must be due to people's innate differences and their tendencies towards criminality.

That is because they have a small probably non diverse population , extremely homogeneous.
But given the extent of globalization and unfettered immigration , you will find such countries fewer and fewer as time goes by.

It is always easier to control a small population.

This post was edited by Hamsterbaby on Mar 20 2023 11:26pm

China is pretty homogeneous, what are you talking about.

Yes, but it has a huge population . From Tier 5 to Tier 1 Cities there is a huge wage gap. They are doing pretty well in the Tier 1 to 2 cities and even to Tier 3 Cities at the moment.
There are still poor people and there are still people who aren't having a decent living yet. But sooner or later they will.

The previous leaders of the communist party mainly the gang of four decimated the entire culture until Deng Xiao Peng made a huge reverse.
So it takes some time for time to move up the ladder. Furthermore the Qing Dynasty and the shame they experienced during the 2 Opium wars , WW1 and WW2 have a huge effect.

As much as they are homogeneous mainly " Han " Chinese. There is still some language barriers i.e the Shanghainese prefer to speak Shanghainese, the Cantonese prefer to converse in Cantonese and the Beijingese prefer standard mandarin.
Unlike the West or in Canada or USA for example, the implementation of a common language galvanize the society or at least they try to.

Crossing a couple of street down the road in a city in Guangzhou for example you might hear a slightly different kind of dialect. And more often than not such nuances separate the residents even though you are ethnically similar.
Therefore creating a dilemma which is why the Central government try to force standardized mandarin down everyone's throat.

For larger cities i.e Shanghai , Shenzhen , Guangzhou , Beijing . There are tons of cameras. because they are diverse and more and more people from different country is coming in to setup office and trade.
In Smaller cities there are much less surveillance in that sense since they are a lot less diversified and having a smaller population.

But even then, with 1.4 billion people there are bound to be idiots and assholes.

Dude calm down. I didn't ask for a lesson on China.

You asked me what I was talking about and I responded to your question.

This post was edited by Hamsterbaby on Mar 20 2023 11:46pm

Yeah, it's pretty similar. For a very long time London was the city with the most cameras per capita, but never got demonized like China does.


China actually used to have a lot of crime! You have to understand that China moved a huge amount of quite poor rural people into cities in a very short period of time, and didn't always have the resources to deal with all the resultant problems. Not saying poor people are 'worse' people or anything, but there is a process of social education that takes place through urbanization. As true in China as in anywhere, and compounded by moving hundreds of millions from being farmers to being factory workers in the span of a couple generations.


The West is obsessed with demonizing China. Everything China does that is a normal thing that happens is cast as dangerous, villainous or suspicious. Look at these headlines, as just an example:




But when it's America:

The media in the West are. Not the average people. And if the average people do care, it's because the media talk about China incessantly.

Why do you care so much about this anyway? Are you Chinese?

It's not the media in the West that are hate-criming Asian people. It's regular fuckhead Westerners.

And no, I am not Chinese. My partner is, though.