Quote (Meanwhile @ May 18 2023 04:43am)
religion getting destroyed by facts
https://i.imgur.com/Xois9Bn.mp4
Matthew 28:16-20
The Great Commission
16 Then the eleven disciples went to Galilee, to the mountain where Jesus had told them to go. 17 When they saw him, they worshiped him; but some doubted. 18 Then Jesus came to them and said, “All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me. 19 Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, 20 and teaching them to obey everything I have commanded you. And surely I am with you always, to the very end of the age.”
Romans 1:20
For since the creation of the world God’s invisible qualities—his eternal power and divine nature—have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that people are without excuse.
Seems like you care about all those people that haven't heard the Gospel. That's great! Will you now, in response, go and support those Missionaries who go to those desolate and hostile places to preach the Gospel?
There's a site for "opendoors.org.au" where you can go and get involved and support those very people. I mean, surely you are not going to be part of the problem but part of the solution. Am I right?
Quote (addone @ May 18 2023 05:57am)
Not your own thoughts. Try harder.
Quote (addone @ May 18 2023 03:57pm)
Woah there! hostile overly projectile Christian take a seat bud.
1. Evidence like maybe a voice that talks to everyone which you can record. Show us some images of hell or heaven or where it is. Maybe follow up on the so called commandments and promises. Like for example the promised ever lasting life as of right now everyone is in process of dying or dead. Proof that he can gather all species of animals and put them on a boat. Should be no problem for the big fella just snap his fingers and bam. You know things like that.
You calling me degenerate sinner is a huge projection and straight up personal insult, how very Christian of you. Also presuming what God would or wouldn't do assumes that you have personal insight into how God thinks and acts. That is quite some feat.
2. Gandalf example was simply there to demonstrate the hypocrisy of your argument. We can safely assume it flew over your head. (incidentally bible talks way more crazy than gandalf on a unicorn.) try reading Revelations you might find 7 headed dragons and other interesting fairy tales.
3. You trying to pidgenhole what I believe is another projection. Rape is an act which is very often an unwanted/unpleasant experience based on survival instincts. One is being spurred by urges of sexual desire and domination. The other side is being repelled by self preservation instincts by avoiding harm for its survival. We simply judge the act as bad because it violates personal boundaries and our ability to choose our sexual partners. In the animal kingdom it's almost always rape they don't care what you like or don't like the male will mate simply because he is the strongest and not much can be done. Humans have evolved beyond that and developed complex social structures. Our values change and our ideas of what right and wrong change all the time. Depending on time, place and what we like. Right and wrong is bronze age type of thinking which Christians still hold dear.
Therefore I don't need to tell a rape victim if it was right or wrong I simply observe that that behaviour doesn't work based on the parameters set out by our society and individual. Many women actually fantasise about being raped/dominated I had several girlfriends who loved being chocked and being treated rough etc. Personally I am not into that but like I said under the right circumstances the act of "rape" is not wrong. It's based on external factors.
Reminds me of a story about a Zen master and a boy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e2cjVhUrmII
Did you know that Revelations was written to the 7 Churches in Rome? Did you know that Rome was very hostile to Christianity and so the Churches had it very tough? So when the letters are written to the 7 Churches they talk about Rome. But who else is going to read those letters? What do you think happens if they find out they were the ones being written about?
So when the letters are written they had to hide the fact they were talking about Rome. For example the 7 headed dragon represents the 7 hills of Rome. Here's a word for you to learn: obfuscation.
Next time you read Revelations consider about how each beast represents Rome in some way shape or form. Once I understood this then reading the vast majority of Revelations made a lot more sense.