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Quote (DizzyBusiness @ Oct 12 2023 02:52pm)
Bold- that is the problem


i keep hearing its to justify the bombing. so if the report never got released how much support does Israel lose? would they still have the same level if it was only 1 beheaded baby? what if it was a beheaded toddler?

there is world wide outrage, not because of that report, because X is filled with videos of gang rapes and burtal murders.
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Quote (gnarjay @ Oct 12 2023 02:54pm)
"you cant get out of partisan bickering mode!"
*proceeds to enter partisan bickering mode*

lmao. every time

I was appalled when I read about it. what was interesting is how fast EVERYONE was talking about it and using it to emphasize the barbarism of Hamas. the same people repeating the story are the same people wanting Palestinians wiped off the face of the earth by whatever means, the same people that are completely fine with Israel killing thousands of innocent children with bombs

thats a lot of words to say "Im ok with believing lies because bad guys are bad"


1. i didnt say anything partisan
2. im not ok with Palestine getting wiped off the map just because you say i am, nor are many others

thats just a lazy strawman you use to paint those you disagree with as evil. i could have done the same thing, and said you weren't appalled by videos of gang rapes, but im not a piece of shit so i dont just go around accusing people of disgusting things.
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I’m confused and haven’t dug deep enough to figure out the truth.

1. Are the 40 babies murdered confirmed?
2. Are the beheaded babies real/fake (seeing a ton of conflicting things)
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Quote (ofthevoid @ Oct 12 2023 01:02pm)
I’m confused and haven’t dug deep enough to figure out the truth.

1. Are the 40 babies murdered confirmed?
2. Are the beheaded babies real/fake (seeing a ton of conflicting things)


I tried to look at it this morning and I can't figure it out honestly. The reporting around this conflict is the messiest I've ever seen even for an ongoing conflict.
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Quote (SBD @ Oct 12 2023 12:57pm)
Thinking like this is why the War on Terror was such a well known success.


what do you suggest they should do?

let hamas run wild?

be real
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Oct 12 2023 02:12pm
Quote (ofthevoid @ Oct 12 2023 03:02pm)
I’m confused and haven’t dug deep enough to figure out the truth.

1. Are the 40 babies murdered confirmed?
2. Are the beheaded babies real/fake (seeing a ton of conflicting things)


1. yes, reported from dead body counts
2. unconfirmed, reported from eye witnesses

the story arises from the Kfar Aza Kibbutz (a small insulated town similar to a commune) where it was confirmed 40 bodies of babies and young children were removed. total numbers and exact causes of death aren't 100% confirmed because people were kidnapped from there, and many houses were burned to ash with bodies in them, others were booby trapped and exploded when soldiers arrived.
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Quote (SlamFkingDunk @ Oct 12 2023 02:09pm)
what do you suggest they should do?

let hamas run wild?

be real


I don't think a retaliatory attack taking no care for human collateral in the meantime is the correct move that will almost certainly result in innocent human casualties of kids, since that what everyone seems to care about that is more than 100X + anything Israel lost.

You could take a more surgical response rather than bombing the only road out, not caring if you hit schools and hospitals that are set up as UN refugee stations, cutting water, food and power off to innocent people, telling people to leave then within 12 hours bombing the exit route.

There are other responses, they just wanted an excuse, which seems apparent enough. This isn't something new, countries do it frequently and it never makes it right nor does it mean its the only option because other countries do it, most notably the USA.
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Quote (SBD @ Oct 12 2023 01:15pm)
I don't think a retaliatory attack taking no care for human collateral in the meantime is the correct move that will almost certainly result in innocent human casualties of kids, since that what everyone seems to care about that is more than 100X + anything Israel lost.

You could take a more surgical response rather than bombing the only road out, not caring if you hit schools and hospitals that are set up as UN refugee stations, cutting water, food and power off to innocent people, telling people to leave then within 12 hours bombing the exit route.

There are other responses, they just wanted an excuse, which seems apparent enough. This isn't something new, countries do it frequently and it never makes it right nor does it mean its the only option because other countries do it, most notably the USA.


stopped reading here

lies.

you must be confusing isreal with hamas


if the roles were reversed, and hamas had the military power that isreal had, isreal would cease to exist in a day

This post was edited by SlamFkingDunk on Oct 12 2023 02:17pm
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Quote (Landmine @ 12 Oct 2023 21:45)
I’ve called out the racist trash on the right in this forum also. Including them in the nazi category.


If it's not asking you too muchj : Which side isn't the Nazi then ?
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