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Apr 24 2017 06:33pm
Quote (Surfpunk @ 25 Apr 2017 00:18)


I tell you what I miss - the greatest, and I mean the greatest, thing ever that ever happened was Trump is what they say, the people who elected me and I got over double the votes Reagan who was a very nice man by the way I used to go shopping with his wife who was a lovely woman, lovely, just wonderful I tell ya she'd say 'Trump, I think you're amazing' she did, she did and she was right you know because I've got plans, the very best plans, for making America better than it's ever been, and it's been great sometimes I tell ya, but not under the democrats because everybody knows they don't know what they're doing, everybody knows it, they don't know what they're doing and it's sad because the ordinary working people of America are being lied to and cheated and their money is being shipped overseas to China and places like that and over the border to Mexico where they're laughing, they're laughing at us at the border did you know that? and I'm gonna stop all that and put the power back in the hands of the real Americans who are the people who do the coal and the gas and things, they love me, they love me because I get them, they say 'Trump you understand and I do, I do.
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Apr 24 2017 06:47pm
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wow... just wow. are there any reports on it or any other form of proof that this tweet was real? just want a link as "ammunition" for future discussions in which someone brings up "science is totally against trump/right-wing populists, didnt you see the march for science?"



got a link to those polls? would be interesting.


i wouldn't blame science as much as i'd blame who ever had access to the twitter account for this one, very few real people who care about science care about this crap

http://www.vox.com/science-and-health/2017/3/24/15028396/march-for-science-diversity

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Quote (Scaly @ Apr 24 2017 09:03pm)
I tell you what I miss - the greatest, and I mean the greatest, thing ever that ever happened was Trump is what they say, the people who elected me and I got over double the votes Reagan who was a very nice man by the way I used to go shopping with his wife who was a lovely woman, lovely, just wonderful I tell ya she'd say 'Trump, I think you're amazing' she did, she did and she was right you know because I've got plans, the very best plans, for making America better than it's ever been, and it's been great sometimes I tell ya, but not under the democrats because everybody knows they don't know what they're doing, everybody knows it, they don't know what they're doing and it's sad because the ordinary working people of America are being lied to and cheated and their money is being shipped overseas to China and places like that and over the border to Mexico where they're laughing, they're laughing at us at the border did you know that? and I'm gonna stop all that and put the power back in the hands of the real Americans who are the people who do the coal and the gas and things, they love me, they love me because I get them, they say 'Trump you understand and I do, I do.


I read 2 sentences before i realized :(
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Apr 24 2017 06:53pm
Quote (Tjo @ Apr 24 2017 06:03pm)
don't buy cigarettes and take some responsibility for your life


Why would I stop? The tobacco companies told me it's healthy, and they would never lie because capitalism would punish them for it!
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Apr 24 2017 07:03pm
Quote (Thor123422 @ Apr 24 2017 07:53pm)
Why would I stop? The tobacco companies told me it's healthy, and they would never lie because capitalism would punish them for it!


Have you gotten a response to this yet? I'm genuinely curious to see the rebuttal

This post was edited by duffman316 on Apr 24 2017 07:03pm
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Apr 24 2017 07:06pm
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acting like the only two options are either trump's approach to LOOSEN restrictions and regulations for the fossil fuel industry that aim to protect the environment, cut back co2 emissions, and promote a shift towards renewable energy, or to "urgently COMPLETELY ELIMINATE the use of fossil fuels", implying that ANYONE even proposed that in a manner that would threaten people's access to affordable energy.
what a completely dishonest "argument" and misrepresentation of what's actually happening. even the "greenest" approaches in europe (scandinavia, germany, netherlands) did NOT do that, but i guess you have to make up such bs scenarios to make trump's approach look somewhat justifiable...


When did I do this?
I did explicitly the opposite by talking about how its more nuanced.

I stated my view. Saying the exact opposite is the only alternate option is nowhere in my post.

but you will stretch for anything, assume the worst, fail at reading comprehension and lie to denounce my posts. nothing new there.

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again, the overwhelming majority of scientists ARE open to opposing ideas and findings. it's NOT about jailing dissenters for dissenting, that's just an alternative argument, a pathetic misrepresentation.
what they DO oppose are scientists DELIBERATELY MISLEADING the public with dishonest statements, often funded by interest groups that have an economic interest in misrepresenting certain issues.
a shame that in your attempt to discredit the vast majority of scientists (not their findings or their conclusions, there's your right wing hypocrisy again) that oppose your own politicised view, you can't seem to see the difference.


when did I say anything terrible about the vast majority of scientists?
I am differentiating between the politicized march and scientists/science.
Something some people seem incapable of doing.

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Apr 24 2017 07:08pm
Quote (Thor123422 @ Apr 24 2017 08:53pm)
Why would I stop? The tobacco companies told me it's healthy, and they would never lie because capitalism would punish them for it!


We already know that you're naive and unworldly.
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Apr 24 2017 07:14pm
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When did I do this?


you can act like that's not what you did but it's for everyone here to see:

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I do not believe we have to urgently completely eliminate the use of fossil fuels, as efficient and affordable energy is a key tool to better people's lives and protect them against the climate.


oh and nice dodge concerning your misrepresentations regarding scientist that oppose trump's views on climate change (including those participating in the march) wanting to jail dissenters simply for dissenting with their views. more right wing propaganda from the biggest trumpapologist around...

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Apr 24 2017 07:18pm
Quote (duffman316 @ Apr 24 2017 07:03pm)
Have you gotten a response to this yet? I'm genuinely curious to see the rebuttal


No, and I doubt I will get a satisfactory answer since it threatens the faith.
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Apr 24 2017 07:19pm
Quote (fender @ Apr 24 2017 09:14pm)
you can act like that's not what you did but it's for everyone here to see:

learn to read and understand what you are reading. seriously its pathetic.
where does it say there are only two options?
I cant state my position without it being some evil two choices only scenario?

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oh and nice dodge concerning your misrepresentations regarding scientist that oppose trump's views on climate change (including those participating in the march) wanting to jail dissenters simply for dissenting with their views. more right wing propaganda from the biggest trumpapologist around...


I already addressed this point in previous posts.

Nice job dodging every point I made and misrepresenting what I said.
You dodged literally everything and attacked a strawman then complain when I dont address every little straw you grasp at. Thats rich.
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