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Quote (Santara @ Apr 29 2022 03:50pm)
The Iowa class had higher quality armor, the South Dakota class did not. The South Dakota herself was driven off Guadalcanal by ships 30 years her junior. I would not change my list from the Yamato.

His list is battleships of the most historical significance.


Note i'd already edited my post to specify the Iowa class in that last sentence.

It's tough with Yamato vs South Dakota - while I agree that in a 1v1, the Yamato would slightly come out on top, the Japanese were so far behind America in how these ships were used (especially late war) and the peripheral technologies equipped to support them that I hesitate to put any Japanese warship in a top 5 list. But, I suppose if we're being super technical, yes, I would have to kick off South Dakota, but I'd give the 5th spot to the Musashi.

But let's not discount the Japanese naval operators in Guadalcanal, clever bastards.

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If going by pure ability, I'd agree that all 4 Iowa class should take the top 4 spots. With Missouri and wisconsin ever slightly higher due to armor upgrades. The 5th spot should probably go to the South Dakota. On paper the new American ships outclassed anything the Atlantic Ocean saw, and while the Yamatos boasted bigger stats, they were on aggregate less effective at their intended role. Iowa class had better speed, armor quality, radar, far better AAA, not to mention outside factors that America had over Japan like a billion to one.

Bismarck and Hood have nice lore but don't belong in this same league.

Arizona? Wtf... not even in the same time zone. WW1 era hunk of metal, good in its day. Makes a great memorial.

Coolness factor, looks, different story entirely. Iowas are beautiful, but Yamato and Musashi are in my opinion that absolute best looking war machines ever put into service.

So I'd say given all factors, #1 battleship of the human race's history would have to go to the Mighty Mo. Unsurpassed among its WW2 counterparts, is currently an awesome museum, and is super famous.


I used different criteria than Santara, and you never specified any. Just a "top 5 WW2 battleships GO" post. Mine aren't because of battle capability, but the notoriety they had. And Arizona is included because of the rallying cry for the war effort it became after Pearl Harbor. Hood because it was the British flagship and the primary image of British naval power for 20 years. The Bismarck because duh...pinnacle of Nazi surface sea power. The same for Yamato and Japan. The Missouri not only for the sheer capability of it, but for being the place where Japan surrendered.

Fun fact: I've been aboard the Missouri while it was in active service.
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Lol

Calling it here and now, they're gonna start saying the title Snow White is racist. Probably already happened somewhere
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Spot on! :thumbsup:
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lol
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Quote (Black XistenZ @ Apr 30 2022 08:52am)
Spot on! :thumbsup:


and totally counter to all the evidence.

Political polarization on the right is massively greater than on the left over the past 20 years.

but hey, don't let evidence get in the way of the meme. The media is super liberal after all right ;)

There was a time when people like , , and were all very far right posters. They are now called liberals. Not because their politics moved that much, but because the right went so far right so quickly.

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Quote (IgoSoHard @ 30 Apr 2022 16:09)

lmao. knew aoc was homophobic and her harassing Thiel is the evidence needed
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