he's been rooting for the President and our nation to fail for 11+ years. this after cheerleading all the wasteful wars of establishment aggression for 8 years. that user 'icepeon' has literally rooted against America for nearly two decades

They say they are right when they don't even understand the argument.




Thor: This is their average voter, boring, predictable, uncritical, we know what he is going to say because there is a distinct lack of creativity there. He probably grew up heavily criticized and is emulating a role.

He will literally type the same response to me and he did to you. He will throw in a jab that he thinks is clever and he will say it over and over and over. He will criticize me because I told my subordinates to not take any shit from anyone and report them immediately... someone like him has no subordinates because nothing is beneath him or lower than him.

Watch he will literally type the same thing over again as a response to this post. He is Glot quality.

This post was edited by Skinned on Feb 7 2020 05:44am

You're preaching to the choir. I am a proponent of government paying significantly more to acquire a more competent workforce. Government wages are so low it's no wonder that anyone with talent either works in corporate or is "doing their time" in government until they can land a fat lobbyist cheque.

We need fewer, higher paid employees. Congress should probably get a big raise too. You're leading the free world for $174,000 a year? No wonder these guys are all corrupt.

Congress should be payed less and given access to room and board in communal dorms. They should be restricted heavily in how they can invest once in office. There should be little financial incentive to public service.

I do agree with investing in a competent workforce though.

Enjoy the show then when private corporations run circles around public legislators and exploit poorly worded law.

You mean the same shit that happens now and will continue to happen even if we payed our representatives more?

I think it really depends on the branch/agency. I agree that members of Congress should be paid more but they should also be given a much larger staff I think. I'd also give public housing and some pretty competitive benefits so that you can keep talent.

For executive agencies, it's really tough. For instance, I think park rangers are adequately paid in the Dept. of the Interior. Department of Energy, on the other hand, should probably see their salaries doubled or tripled. There are some incredibly smart people at the national labs that end up working for Google instead of doing their research. The GS scale REALLY needs reform.

That's not true. There's pro-Trump people in the media and in government who acknowledge what he did was wrong.

It's also worrisome that you can't even bother to learn the facts and develop your own opinion. Your position is essentially "CNN and Democrats are saying X, so X cannot be true". It's PTDS, pro-Trump derangement syndrome.

There's multiple examples in the Constitution of arguably anti-democratic mechanisms or institutions. The electoral college is one example. Impeachment is another. The framers put the mechanism in there to remove presidents for egregious behavior, and the Ukraine thing, along with Trump's complete shamelessness in not accepting responsibility, qualifies. It would be a sad but necessary decision.