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Oct 31 2019 08:41am
Quote (thesnipa @ 31 Oct 2019 10:39)
FUCK lol i got got then. all i read was "Trump booed again........even though game was in Houston".

the headline is way misleading. Its huffpo though so what can we expect
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the headline is way misleading. Its huffpo though so what can we expect


huffpo via Yahoo even.

clearly huffpo isn't sending yahoo their best.
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Oct 31 2019 11:34am
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huffpo via Yahoo even.

clearly huffpo isn't sending yahoo their best.


both the link as well as the headline clearly mention 'nationals park', so suggesting it's somehow the fault of 'evil biased news', rather than your own negligence while reading it, is somewhat disingenuous.
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Quote (thesnipa @ Oct 31 2019 09:39am)
FUCK lol i got got then. all i read was "Trump booed again........even though game was in Houston".


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both the link as well as the headline clearly mention 'nationals park', so suggesting it's somehow the fault of 'evil biased news', rather than your own negligence while reading it, is somewhat disingenuous.


yes the ....... in this post meant that i skimmed it.

i didnt even read the article, i read the headline, clicked it, clicked a video from twitter or w/e that was linked, listened with headphones, and posted.

"isnt sending their best" was just a joke from Trump's initial wall speech in 2015.
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Oct 31 2019 11:48am
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yes the ....... in this post meant that i skimmed it.

i didnt even read the article, i read the headline, clicked it, clicked a video from twitter or w/e that was linked, listened with headphones, and posted.

"isnt sending their best" was just a joke from Trump's initial wall speech in 2015.


i'm not suggesting it's an unforgivable mistake to make, i'm sure every single person here has misread headlines before. i'm also by no means trying to defend everything the huff post or yahoo write, all i'm trying to say is that we probably should not feed the 'fake news' narrative when it's clearly not justified.
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Oct 31 2019 11:59am
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i'm not suggesting it's an unforgivable mistake to make, i'm sure every single person here has misread headlines before. i'm also by no means trying to defend everything the huff post or yahoo write, all i'm trying to say is that we probably should not feed the 'fake news' narrative when it's clearly not justified.


The headline still reads like Trump was physically there to me, rather than it being a campaign ad. it's not factually incorrect, but it's designed to make you click. i consider anything that's worded a way to get you to click to be a bit of "fake news".

but overall i'm not concerned with quarantining that narrative, because i think fake news is a real problem in America. from the right, left, and everything inbetween. yahoo specifically has awful journalistic standard, not their fault entirely. you dont go to mcdonalds for a grade A steak. but overall they are really fucking bad. constantly posting articles with thumbnails of a different person, just so you go "wait the headline says George Clooney, but that's Brad Pitt". then u click it and brad pitt's nowhere to be seen. they also like to put out headlines like "you wont believe what ____ said", then you click it and they said literally nothing. worse of all the "when will The Witcher (for example) be released on Netflix?" headline, then 4 paragraphs that say "late 2019, we dont actually know at all".

i'll take every chance to rag on yahoo, while still reading it daily, even when it's my bad.
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Oct 31 2019 12:32pm
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Oct 31 2019 12:39pm
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The headline still reads like Trump was physically there to me, rather than it being a campaign ad. it's not factually incorrect, but it's designed to make you click. i consider anything that's worded a way to get you to click to be a bit of "fake news".

but overall i'm not concerned with quarantining that narrative, because i think fake news is a real problem in America. from the right, left, and everything inbetween. yahoo specifically has awful journalistic standard, not their fault entirely. you dont go to mcdonalds for a grade A steak. but overall they are really fucking bad. constantly posting articles with thumbnails of a different person, just so you go "wait the headline says George Clooney, but that's Brad Pitt". then u click it and brad pitt's nowhere to be seen. they also like to put out headlines like "you wont believe what ____ said", then you click it and they said literally nothing. worse of all the "when will The Witcher (for example) be released on Netflix?" headline, then 4 paragraphs that say "late 2019, we dont actually know at all".

i'll take every chance to rag on yahoo, while still reading it daily, even when it's my bad.


i'm not very familiar with yahoo 'news' to be honest, maybe they are generally really shitty and deserve criticism for it, but i honestly don't find this particular headline misleading at all. it contains the important information, and from my perspective goes out of its way to PREVENT a false interpretation: it clearly states "again at nationals park" and then even goes one step further by specifying "EVEN THOUGH game was in houston" - literally the only way to characterise this as 'misleading' is to simply not read it properly. so if that is your standard, you could label literally everything as 'a bit of fake news'.

actual fake news deserve to be called out, i totally agree - but we both know WHO weaponised this term, who tends to use it, and in what context. the way it is currently used is not to objectively and fairly point out instances of intentionally misleading or carelessly sloppy reporting, but almost exclusively to discredit outlets that dare to criticise trump. it's used to misrepresent honest mistakes or singular instances of bad reporting as representative and characteristic of all their reporting - and in that context i think it's not helpful to perpetuate the 'fake news' narrative just because you were too distracted to read a headline properly.
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Oct 31 2019 01:05pm
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i'm not very familiar with yahoo 'news' to be honest, maybe they are generally really shitty and deserve criticism for it, but i honestly don't find this particular headline misleading at all. it contains the important information, and from my perspective goes out of its way to PREVENT a false interpretation: it clearly states "again at nationals park" and then even goes one step further by specifying "EVEN THOUGH game was in houston" - literally the only way to characterise this as 'misleading' is to simply not read it properly. so if that is your standard, you could label literally everything as 'a bit of fake news'.

actual fake news deserve to be called out, i totally agree - but we both know WHO weaponised this term, who tends to use it, and in what context. the way it is currently used is not to objectively and fairly point out instances of intentionally misleading or carelessly sloppy reporting, but almost exclusively to discredit outlets that dare to criticise trump. it's used to misrepresent honest mistakes or singular instances of bad reporting as representative and characteristic of all their reporting - and in that context i think it's not helpful to perpetuate the 'fake news' narrative just because you were too distracted to read a headline properly.


my posts in pard are for people in pard. i dont see how i can be "furthering the narrative" when im just posting on a forum with the same 10 people every day. i didn't tweet this to 10,000 followers or anything.

in pard most of the time when people use phrases like "fake news" its just to meme, unless they're a hardcore Trump supporter who bought the term at face value initially. ive known since it was originated that Trump was just capitalizing on general media misbehavior to draw the heat off himself. its one of the few things he's good at, finding a problem, warping the problem, and coming out on top (at least to his followers).

but overall, my posts in PARD are in a bit of a vacuum. i dont talk to people like this in other subforums, let alone real life.
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Then the Lord said to Moses, “Go down, because your people, whom you brought up out of Egypt, have become corrupt. 8 They have been quick to turn away from what I commanded them and have made themselves an idol cast in the shape of a calf.



Pretty much spot on.
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