since you're clearly so upset you aren't reading well let me make a simple point clear. you said Iran thinks "death to Israel", then i explained what they mean by that in their own words. then you said their actions are different, so i explained how their actions line up with their explanation in their perspective. you somehow got confused into thinking that I'm justifying what they're doing, because you're emotional. I just explained how their position is logically consistent, not morally justified.

but it is rich to hear someone who is Israeli talk about rockets fired into civilian areas saying that means they think life is cheap. you soulless cowards turned Gaza into a parking lot while you sat comfortable behind the iron dome. now someone brings the fight to you and all you can do is cry, oy vey. every israeli condemnation is just a self report. least self aware country on earth.

You are going to regret making this statement. There is no way Israel is not going to get rid of all Palestinians from Gaza and swallow it whole. It is in their interest to do it. You are not going to return the lands back to the Civilians.

Your very own argument like 1 hour ago was "if someone tells you they want you dead you believe them". This is the very same argument i'm confronted you with from leaders, not some fringe ministers, in your government including your prime minister.
If international law is so holy to you then why doesn't your country send those "fringe ministers" to the hague so they can defend their actions there? Oh no wait you wouldn't have any leaders in the country left.
Also it's complete rubbish what you say. If you incite to war crimes and call for amelek and destruction on an entire population that they are animals, not humans, and then your armed forces act thereafter you're very much complicit. Just like you're complicit if, i don't know, you acquit soldiers raping an inmate on video.... This is what the UN is now also charging Israel with systemic torture but i guess no consequences for such a thing even though it's international law not to commit war crimes.

It’s convenient to claim you’re 'just explaining logic' right before you start mocking people for being targets of terror. You aren't 'explaining' a position; you’re sanitizing it. If someone tells you they want you dead, and then fires a rocket at your house, only a 'useful idiot' spends their time debating the 'nuance' of the shooter’s explanation.

You call Israelis 'soulless cowards' for having a defense system, yet you have nothing to say about the 'bravery' of a regime in Tehran that hides behind Lebanese and Gazan families to fight a war they’re too cowardly to fight themselves. You’re complaining that the 'parking lot' was created, but you ignore that it was built over a tunnel network designed specifically to ensure that any response would cost civilian lives. That isn't a 'self-report' it’s the reality of fighting an enemy that values a PR victory in the West more than the lives of its own people.

You sit there safely judging a country for 'crying' about being attacked, while you justify the very people pulling the triggers as 'logically consistent.' If you think being 'self-aware' means quietly accepting 150,000 rockets because the other side has a 'logical explanation' for them, then your 'logic' is just a cover for your own bias. Stick to your 'macro-economics' the moral high ground is clearly too high a climb for you.

To be fair Lee Kuan Yew said that Iran will want to get the Bomb as soon as possible. If Pakistan has it, India has it... why not them.

You're trying to compare a country that actually arrests its own soldiers when they break the law to a regime that gives medals to its proxies for slaughtering civilians. The fact that you know about the 'rape' case or the 'fringe ministers' is because Israel has a free press, an independent judiciary, and a public that demands accountability. Where is the Iranian investigation into the thousands of rockets fired at schools? Where is the 'Hague' for the IRGC leaders who bankroll global terror?

You say I’m complicit? I’m a citizen in a country fighting for its life against a 'Ring of Fire' that you’re busy defending as 'logically consistent.' You’re hyper-focused on 'Amalek' quotes while ignoring the 45-year reality of Iran’s actual expansionism. You can’t have it both ways: you can't claim to care about international law while justifying the unprovoked attacks of October 8th.

If you think a democracy’s internal failures make it the same as a totalitarian death cult, you’ve lost your moral compass entirely. Israel isn't a 'legacy of injustice' it's the only place in the Middle East where you could even have this debate without being dragged into a black site. You’re not fighting for justice; you’re just a spectator cheering for the side that wants to burn it all down."

Good night

You know nothing m8, move on!

the fact that you think you need to explain why you're better morally than iranians, who are literal dog shit morally, just shows how Israel was never a western nation. you're BARELY the least barbaric nation in a region of barbaric savages, and that's actually giving you a large benefit of doubt. because domestically you're a mess and other areas were actually catching up in the moral arena, and those places have literal slavery, thats how bad you are. you're literally a tiny bit MAYBE ahead of literal slave owners.

Why dont you go for a walk outside and spit on a few Christians on your way to arrest someone to administer a racially segregated death penalty so you can settle the home of a Palestinian who doesn't have the right to vote.

I think I know a lot more comparable to some here.

You should have just used the classic It is unfortunate but necessary argument instead of such lengthy paragraphs.


Don't try to act smart.. I am surrounded by 290 Million Muslims and you are not. Out of 290 Million Muslims a good 20 to 30 million are literal going to bomb your country and convert you type.

You know nothing.......pffff

This post was edited by Hamsterbaby on Apr 9 2026 12:54pm

And there it is. The 'logic' and 'macro-economics' mask finally slips and out comes the rant about 'barbaric savages' and 'dog shit.' When you run out of facts, you resort to 19th-century colonial bigotry

You’re lecturing me about 'Western values' while calling an entire region of the world savages? The irony is incredible. You talk about racially segregated death penalties a total fiction considering Israel doesn’t even have a functioning death penalty while you defend a regime in Iran that literally executes people for being gay or for not wearing a piece of cloth on their head.

You’re not an intellectual, you’re just a tourist in other people's trauma. You’ve replaced history with a checklist of TikTok buzzwords like 'segregated death penalties' and 'spitting on Christians' to avoid the fact that you’re rooting for a theocratic empire that would despise everything you stand for. I’m done debating a guy who thinks 'savages' is a valid geopolitical category. You can keep your 'satire' and your 'economics' it’s clear they were just a cover for a total lack of substance.

Good night