there's no such thing as an "ought" from science or empirical data, you cannot base how you ought behave or decision making based off data alone.

every single european country is based off christianty, yes islam is terrible and ruined Iran but saying having religion at the center of your population creates a bad society is has been demonstrated to be wrong. your system of laws and ethics in your country comes directly from christianity, and every time they step away from it your country has gotten worse.

places where atheism took over lead the the largest genocides in human history, so the data doesn't really reflect to your preference unless genocide is your preference.

This post was edited by majorblood on Mar 9 2026 05:39am

I agree that many of our modern laws were historically influenced by Christian ethics. However, that does not mean morality itself depends on religion. Christian values, like any other moral framework, were developed and interpreted by human beings. The Bible was written by people, which suggests that humans are capable of reasoning about ethics and building moral systems themselves.

Moreover, Christianity itself does not present a single, unified set of values, different denominations and believers often interpret its teachings in very different ways.

It is true that many atrocities were committed under atheist, autocratic regimes. But religious values have not prevented similar crimes. Christian Europe still produced events like the Holocaust, in which the Nazis murdered six million Jews. History also contains many examples of violence and genocide justified by religion.

What most genocides actually seem to share is not atheism, but authoritarian leadership and unchecked power. That correlation appears far stronger than the presence or absence of religion.

Just like you continue to dodge and never show your physical proof?

Oh well, fake addonr gonna fake.

I continue to hold you to your same expectation of physical id of the one who created life and still waiting for your alternative.

Until then my faith in Jesus will remain strong.

the fact that 'atheists cant process the data in the godless goodness thread. says much about their condition






why dont you go back and process the link godless goodness? 'atheism has been a horror show. 'atheists in their own godhood should be the last people anyone should listen
they have even been worse than islam.

godless goodness link shows places where 'atheistrs did take over.
'atheists are a joke when it comes to science and empirical data. that you just arbitrarily skippity skip past the godless goodness link is proof

the big question that your misdirecting is how did it all get here. not what it does. (LIFE)
'atheist used to have a monkey religion that explained everything. monkey religion that came from their imaginations while they scoff at other people accusing them of imaginations. the whole show is quite entertaining.

im using definitions. your doing the old 'atheist trick living in abundant imaginations. perhaps the biggest problem with 'atheists. they consider themselves such super minds and therefore become enamored with their own imaginations. do you think its ironic? 'atheists are the creatures they have disdain for?

another problem 'atheists have is they take simple things and insert a lot of woo woo into it, trying to get people to think they are smart. when in reality they are just con men.


LOL YA IT DOES

super·nat·ural
[ˌsuːpəˈnatʃ(ə)r(ə)l]

adjective

noun
supernatural (adjective)
(of a manifestation or event) attributed to some force beyond scientific understanding or the laws of nature:

that you believe that all things science cant explain now will be able to explain in the future.
thats just your own faith based belief.
how about that huh? your religious.


This post was edited by TiStuff on Mar 9 2026 09:22am

Conveniently forgets to list how many billions of people who died under religion throughout history
Unironically thinks that his magic god wiped out 99.9999999% of all life on the planet.

But sure let's blame atheism.

your meme is a concoction out of your imagination. the 'atheist would more likely be flipping into a rage cursing God

addone conveniently confuses dying with murder. which is just more gibberish and why i have become dismissive and repay him in turn

addone doesnt know anything about scripture yet has the gall to call it false. 'atheist arrogance and pride is a grand indicator to the truth of scripture. just what a person would expect from the enemy of God?

Genesis 6:13-8:22
King James Version
13 And God said unto Noah, The end of all flesh is come before me; for the earth is filled with violence through them; and, behold, I will destroy them with the earth.

mankind bringing the end through his destructive nature. God doesnt destroy mankind, he saves it
we even see man destroying the earth as we speak. nothing new under the sun.

the horror of 'atheism has been documented. the experiment has been a abject failure. the 'atheist who thought themselves great, became losers
and dawkins finally knows


Atheist Richard Dawkins warns of 'something worse' if Christianity continues to decline in Europe
https://www.christiantoday.com/news/atheist-richard-dawkins-warns-of-something-worse-if-christianity-continues-to-decline-in-europe

This post was edited by TiStuff on Mar 9 2026 02:57pm

According to Tistuff the crusades weren't murder people just died of natural causes like getting stabbed by a sword or when magic god supposedely wipes out 99.9999999% all life it isn't murder either.
Lets apply special pleading logic to one and not the other, let's rearange terms to make one seem like okay while the other bad. Lets also cherrypick murder while ignoring the vast percentage of murdering done in the name of religion all throughout history. That will definitely paint an accurate representation of how it really is.

Thanks for providing me the opportunity to expose you more and prove how dishonest christians really are.

the crusades was a response to islamic aggression. islam was getting to close to the vatican and the pope was chitting his pants.
but if you want to call defending oneself from aggression murdering thats up to you.

i will just cut n paste what you ignored because 'atheism is about dishonesty
Genesis 6:13-8:22
King James Version
13 And God said unto Noah, The end of all flesh is come before me; for the earth is filled with violence through them; and, behold, I will destroy them with the earth.
mankind bringing the end through his destructive nature. God doesnt destroy mankind, he saves it
we even see man destroying the earth as we speak. nothing new under the sun.

asserting the horrors of religion while still ignoring the horrors of 'atheism that has been documented


if you had that opportunity you squandered it

People making the claim I chose to murder because I believe my God wants me to would cause God to be the murderer?

Where in scripture does it say God murders people?

Christian logic
When god murders people or performs a genocide its called "he is saving them"
When religious people fight with other religious people its called self defense and isnt considered murder but when non religious people (communists vs nazis) defend themselves in a war its called murder.

(Special pleading is a logical fallacy where a person applies general rules or standards to others but claims an exemption for themselves or their own beliefs without providing a valid justification)

Keep lying Tistuff you might just convince yourself its true.