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Feb 7 2017 08:03pm
Quote (Voyaging @ Feb 7 2017 07:59pm)
What has he done that comes close to comparing to directly infiltrating the US election and essentially choosing our next president, or that Russia now has immense power over American politics?


Currency manipulation is a much bigger issue. I'd rather China was hacking Trump's emails to expose any malfeasance they could find than devaluing the yuan to put american workers out of business.

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Plenty of countries do underhanded things, none except one succeed to this extreme of a level.


Plenty of countries refused to take on any serious load of syrian refugees, but japan took it to an extreme level.
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Feb 7 2017 08:10pm
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A good rule of thumb for whether someone is lying with malice aforethought is whether their comments can be held up to initial scrutiny.
If trump says something thats just factually wrong and trivially disproven, its probably just him being a dingus. Such a statistic is plainly available and easy to find
Hillary saying she was dodging sniper fire is a story that would have been plausible if CBS didn't have archived footage of the plane actually landing with a little girl on the tarmac.

If trump is trying to deceive on a national stage to further his agenda, why would he say something patently wrong instead of manipulatively deceptive?


so the president spewing lies is "just him being a dingus"... guess that makes it ok then.

it's a bit funny coming from a guy who has so little common sense that he claims to know that clinton wanted to do the same things trump does, but instead of not commenting on these topics, she made them cornerstones of her campaign and publicly claimed she'd do the opposite... how does that add up in that alternative world of yours?
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Feb 7 2017 08:14pm
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so the president spewing lies is "just him being a dingus"... guess that makes it ok then.

it's a bit funny coming from a guy who has so little common sense that he claims to know that clinton wanted to do the same things trump does, but instead of not commenting on these topics, she made them cornerstones of her campaign and publicly claimed she'd do the opposite... how does that add up in that alternative world of yours?


So you're one of the tiny minority of americans who actually trusted Hillary Clinton?
You know before she made things like LGBT rights and repealing 3 strikes laws the "cornerstone of her campaign", she first campaigned against them two decades ago when it was politically expedient, right?
I don't doubt Robert Byrd disavowed the Klan by the new millennium, but I don't think I'd trust him to champion new civil rights legislation either after his last filibuster

This post was edited by Goomshill on Feb 7 2017 08:18pm
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Feb 7 2017 08:19pm
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So you're one of the tiny minority of americans who actually trusted Hillary Clinton?
You know before she made things like LGBT rights and repealing 3 strikes laws the "cornerstone of her campaign", she first campaigned against them two decades ago when it was politically expedient, right?
I don't doubt Robert Byrd disavowed the Klan by the new millennium, but I don't think I'd trust him to champion new civil rights legislation either after his last filibuster


You continue to surprise me.
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Feb 7 2017 08:22pm
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Feb 7 2017 08:22pm
Quote (Goomshill @ 8 Feb 2017 03:14)
So you're one of the tiny minority of americans who actually trusted Hillary Clinton?
You know before she made things like LGBT rights and repealing 3 strikes laws the "cornerstone of her campaign", she first campaigned for them two decades ago when it was politically expedient, right?
I don't doubt Robert Byrd disavowed the Klan by the new millennium, but I don't think I'd trust him to champion new civil rights legislation either after his last filibuster


nice pivot, mate. you'd be a fool to trust any career politician 100%, especially someone so clearly part of the corrupt establishment like clinton or trump. that's not the point though and you know that:

like her or not, you can't possibly think that if clinton's intention had been to actually scale back environmental protection and repeal banking regulations, her campaign would have emphasised that she was planning to do the exact opposite so much - however, that is your ridiculous "defense" of trump's policies...

This post was edited by fender on Feb 7 2017 08:31pm
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Feb 7 2017 08:24pm
Quote (EndlessSky @ Feb 7 2017 08:22pm)
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Oh god please tell me you're drinking the Kool aid on this media under reporting gag
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Feb 7 2017 08:27pm
Quote (EndlessSky @ Feb 7 2017 07:22pm)
NARRATIVE DESTROYED

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I'm convinced

this is the end
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#11669
Feb 7 2017 08:37pm
Quote (thesnipa @ Feb 7 2017 10:24pm)
Oh god please tell me you're drinking the Kool aid on this media under reporting gag


They are underreported, faggot. The quebec shooter shouted ALLAHU AKBAR, but media blamed Trump somehow.

Best part is.. when the media overplays their hand to defend themselves, theyll increase public awareness of terrorism and approval of the migrant ban.

This post was edited by EndlessSky on Feb 7 2017 08:37pm
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Feb 7 2017 08:44pm
Quote (EndlessSky @ Feb 7 2017 08:37pm)
They are underreported, faggot. The quebec shooter shouted ALLAHU AKBAR, but media blamed Trump somehow.

Best part is.. when the media overplays their hand to defend themselves, theyll increase public awareness of terrorism and approval of the migrant ban.


Lol so predictable
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