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Apr 13 2017 03:40pm
Quote (Scaly @ 13 Apr 2017 22:37)
Actually fucking disgusting that they could use this tbh.
Fuck Trump.


I dont see much difference between this bomb and a chemical attack.
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Apr 13 2017 03:40pm
Quote (cambovenzi @ Apr 13 2017 08:58am)
You have to prevent the government from having the powers they want to use and abuse.
Abolishing free speech, particularly of those who want to limit government, is not the answer.

Banning political speech does not solve the problem. It merely entrenches incumbents and the establishment and protects them from dissent, while the extensive government powers and programs continue to exist and be influenced by people with connections to government.
Contrary to popular opinions: campaign donations, superpac donations and documentaries about Hillary are not the only influences on government and its officials.

No. There are numerous books and lectures explaining how this might work and has worked in the absence of government. (governments which btw regularly infringe on property rights)

You not understanding the basics of how a system would work is not the same as it being impossible.

Rather than voluntaryism being a rigid single model, it is freedom for people to try a wide range of different models without being shutdown and forced into a corner by an intrusive monopolistic coercive government.


You have to actively prevent your government from doing things you don't like, while people with more resources actively work to do things you don't. This just isn't feasible as far as keeping everything you disagree with away from the government. You aren't going to ever have a government that does mostly what you want in any society larger than a few hundred people.

Of course money isn't the only influence, but it's a damn powerful one. In particular it's powerful for legislatures since their races typically don't receive nearly as much attention as the presidential campaign, and they are arguably more important than the presidency.

There are numerous books on why it wouldn't work. Unless you have an overarching force to enforce contracts and property rights the one with the biggest stick will always have the most. Yes, governments regularly infringe on property rights, but they also defend property rights much more frequently.

"It's not a rigid single model" is just a way to keep a proposed model as loose as possible, so it can't be pinned down under any specific criticism. If I give any criticism the goal posts can be moved endlessly by just saying "well, then don't do it that way since it's not rigid! How will we prevent it from being done that way? By not being rigid!"

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Apr 13 2017 03:51pm
Quote (IceMage @ 13 Apr 2017 21:39)
He said he'd bomb the shit out of ISIS... he wasn't lying.


Fucking monstrous.

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Apr 13 2017 03:55pm
Quote (duffman316 @ 13 Apr 2017 22:39)
idk, my first reaction to this was to google for pictures and i think it looks pretty awesome
http://i.imgur.com/ZXBVb3z.jpg


you type "pictures" in a google image search mr. K ?
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Apr 13 2017 03:59pm
Quote (Scaly @ Apr 13 2017 03:37pm)
Actually fucking disgusting that they could use this tbh.
Fuck Trump.


I'm trying to figure out if you're being next level sarcastic or not or if this is just Poe's Law in effect.
Sometimes I wish I actually cared enough about who posts what on PARD to remember whos left or right or nutwing. I think I remember cambos a libertarian thats about it
The MOAB is just a bomb filled with 9 tons of H-6, the same shit thats in the other 26,000 bombs we dropped last year
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Apr 13 2017 04:05pm
Quote (Goomshill @ 13 Apr 2017 21:59)
I'm trying to figure out if you're being next level sarcastic or not or if this is just Poe's Law in effect.
Sometimes I wish I actually cared enough about who posts what on PARD to remember whos left or right or nutwing. I think I remember cambos a libertarian thats about it
The MOAB is just a bomb filled with 9 tons of H-6, the same shit thats in the other 26,000 bombs we dropped last year


Also fucking disgusting to be fair. But the larger it is the less precise it is and the more innocents are liable to be caught in the blast. Indiscriminate killing is repulsive to me. Sorry if it's something that gives you a boner.
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Apr 13 2017 04:11pm
Quote (Scaly @ Apr 13 2017 04:05pm)
Also fucking disgusting to be fair. But the larger it is the less precise it is and the more innocents are liable to be caught in the blast. Indiscriminate killing is repulsive to me. Sorry if it's something that gives you a boner.


All those innocent people hanging out inside a tunnel complex in the middle of the desert in ISIS held territory? Was it a tunnel-based orphanage?
I suppose this stems from the same reasoning that gives us "Why didn't the police shoot the gun out of the black guy's hand"
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Apr 13 2017 04:13pm
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All those innocent people hanging out inside a tunnel complex in the middle of the desert in ISIS held territory? Was it a tunnel-based orphanage?
I suppose this stems from the same reasoning that gives us "Why didn't the police shoot the gun out of the black guy's hand"


Don't be so fucking silly. You don't shoot the gun out of the black guy's hand because guns aren't that precise. Same reason you don't use a bazooka to shoot the black guy. Not very precise. Might kill innocents.

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Apr 13 2017 04:22pm
Quote (Scaly @ Apr 13 2017 04:13pm)
Don't be so fucking silly. You don't shoot the gun out of the black guy's hand because guns aren't that precise. Same reason you don't use a bazooka to shoot the black guy. Not very precise.


But you're supposed to be Annie Oakley and shoot him in the shoulder to 'disarm him' just like they do in hollywood movies. I've talked to enough black lives matter activists
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Apr 13 2017 04:29pm
Quote (Goomshill @ 13 Apr 2017 22:22)
But you're supposed to be Annie Oakley and shoot him in the shoulder to 'disarm him' just like they do in hollywood movies. I've talked to enough black lives matter activists


Well I'm not one of them. BLM is a twitter hashtag that lets people feel like they have the right to smash windows.
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