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Hahahaahaha nope...try earning 300 times as much as a person who had the same pre-college education they did. Executives make on average of $578,525 to $940,284 each year, with CEOs making an average of $16,300,000. Workers at these companies earn an average of $53,000.


Btw this is horribly inaccurate.
The average CEO makes nowhere close to that much.

The average American CEO made around $178,000 according to 2013 statistics.

Citation: https://www.aei.org/publication/the-average-us-ceo-last-year-made-only-178400-about-the-same-as-a-dentist-and-got-a-raise-of-less-than-1/

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Apr 13 2017 10:36am
Libertarianism is just ending up in fascism-capitalism, and if you dont want a state they will create one for you, and believe me, it will not be a democratic one, however it could be but only for the title.

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Libertarianism is just ending up in fascism-capitalism, and if you dont want a state they will create one for you, and believe me, it will not be a democratic one, however it could be but only for the title.

...gibberish.

You dont even understand what the words mean, let alone understand the contents or arguments.

Libertarianism is incredibly and explicitly opposed to fascism and strict government control of the economy.

But you dont like your preconception of libertarianism and everyone knows fascism is bad..literally Hitler!.. so why not lump the two together to dismiss it! Its genius!

This post was edited by cambovenzi on Apr 13 2017 10:46am
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Apr 13 2017 10:50am
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Btw this is horribly inaccurate.
The average CEO makes nowhere close to that much.

The average American CEO made around $178,000 according to 2013 statistics.

Citation: https://www.aei.org/publication/the-average-us-ceo-last-year-made-only-178400-about-the-same-as-a-dentist-and-got-a-raise-of-less-than-1/


The numbers are referring to like the top ~500 companies or something iirc.
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The numbers are referring to like the top ~500 companies or something iirc.


Yep top 200 or 500 is typically used to get figures like that.
They discuss that a bit in that link I posted.

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According to the US Census, there are more than 27 million private firms in the US, so the 200 firms reported by USAToday represent only one of every 135,000 private firms in the US, or 0.00074% (less than 1/1000 of 1%). Note also that USAToday compares the annual wages of ALL full-time employees working at more than 27 million companies to the CEO pay of executives at only 200 companies.

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The 200 S&P500 firms reported by USAToday represent only one out of every 1,243 firms in the country that have a CEO at the head, and that small sample of 200 would represent only 0.08% of American CEOs, or less than one-tenth of one percent of all CEOs. The larger sample of CEOs reported by the BLS gives us a much better understanding of “average CEO compensation.”


Rather than gazillions being the typical CEO pay, those millions are the pay of CEOs at the most extremely successful businesses on the planet and are the outlier.
Is this a bizarre coincidence in the Sylvannos-Marxian view?

Its also worth noting that the status quo is not free market capitalism.
(Some companies have been the beneficiaries of massive government subsidies and protectionism that rewards them despite poor business practices[failing banks w/ huge CEO pay] or blocks out their competition.)

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Could be BS stats... found it on The_Donald.

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:drool:

The only thing I do like about the military industrial complex. They make cool shit, even if they do it really expensively.
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Actually fucking disgusting that they could use this tbh.
Fuck Trump.
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Actually fucking disgusting that they could use this tbh.
Fuck Trump.


He said he'd bomb the shit out of ISIS... he wasn't lying.
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Actually fucking disgusting that they could use this tbh.
Fuck Trump.


idk, my first reaction to this was to google for pictures and i think it looks pretty awesome
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