You dont understand. Its not a library lol
Technically you gotta return them before your presidency is over.

Then he should be punished for taking too long to return them. He shouldn't be punished for refusing to return them.

Again its not a library... these are top secret files... you dont have the understanding for this

It doesn't matter. He should be given a reasonable amount of time to return all the papers and files.

The only person who had the authority to weigh in on whether those secret files were classified is Donald Trump, unless Joe Biden is going to contradict him with his presidential authority.



There's no such technicality, there's no basis for claiming that presidential declassification is revoked when a president leaves office.
All executive orders remain in effect until contradicted by a future order, so the only reasonable legal conclusion is that all presidential powers of classification or declassification remain in effect from one president to the next until revoked.

LOL bro.. these documents aren't changing from classified to non classified rent free in each (Biden/Trumps head) the rest of the gov't has to know where they fall.
IE there is a process. its getting pretty laughable the changing of classification war secretly in each person head you got going on..
** what executive order deemed these specific document classified or un classified?

This post was edited by theCrossbones on Aug 14 2022 11:12pm

when you fail to respond to a subpoena by the date.. you are in trouble.
its not hard.. gymnastics in you head might be hard

Tears.

Plenary powers are absolute and implicit, their process is a formality not a restriction. A president taking an action means the natural consequences are implied. This came up during the whole ridiculous spiel about Trump 'disclosing military secrets' when holding talks with Putin. If the president says it, then he's implicitly authorized its disclosure. If a president takes a document home, he's implicitly saying its not classified. Besides being something that couldn't be contradicted or denied, a standing vocal order wouldn't be necessary.

Again, this entire prosecutorial theory is based on the concept that President Trump violated President Trump's authority. Its not premised on him breaking any law or statute that involves authorities derived from congress or natural law where there would be solid legal footing, instead its about secret classifications that derive solely from executive authority. And a president cannot violate his own authority, its nonsensical. We've already got an unchallenged legal argument that a president's powers of classification are absolute and can't be infringed by congress, but now we're into the nonsensical realm of talking about whether a president's powers of classification can be infringed by himself.

This post was edited by Goomshill on Aug 14 2022 11:32pm

First, a U.S. president does have uniquely sweeping declassification abilities, though there is a process that involves written documentation and several other steps.
It's not the case that a president can declassify documents with just verbal instructions. His instruction to declassify a given document would first be memorialized in a written memo, usually drafted by White House counsel, which he would then sign.


Though classified information can be taken off the premises in the course of official duties, taking classified documents home is prohibited by executive order.
https://obamawhitehouse.archives.gov/the-press-office/executive-order-classified-national-security-information


Once a final decision is made, and the relevant agency receives the president's signed memo, the physical document in question would be marked — the old classification level would be crossed out — and the document would then be stamped, "Declassified on X date" by the agency in question.

Former Trump administration officials have claimed that Trump previously declassified the documents taken with him to Mar-a-Lago, but that the classification markings had not been updated.


"The White House counsel failed to generate the paperwork to change the classification markings, but that doesn't mean the information wasn't declassified," former Trump defense official Kash Patel told Breitbart in May, regarding other material that had earlier been removed from Mar-a-Lago. "I was there with President Trump when he said 'We are declassifying this information.'"
Courts may ultimately have to decide how sweeping a sitting president's declassification powers can be. But U.S. officials familiar with the classification process to date point out that, unless and until the documents are stamped "Declassified" by the requisite agency, and following the submission of a written memo signed by the president, they have historically not been considered declassified.
It is also unclear how central a legal question the classification process and the president's role in it could be. As the New York Times points out, none of the statutes cited in the warrant rely on whether the records were classified or not. The search warrant signed by the Florida magistrate judge entails items "illegally possessed in violation of 18 U.S.C. § § 793, 2071, or 1519."
That first code, Section 793, and more commonly known as the Espionage Act, applies to defense information. It applies, for instance, to material illegally removed "from its proper place of custody" or that is lost, stolen or destroyed.
The next statute, Section 2071, bans concealing, removing, mutilating or destroying records filed with U.S. courts. And the final one, Section 1519, prohibits concealing, destroying or mutilating records to obstruct or influence an investigation.

all examples of how this process just doesn't happen magically in a presidents head. nobody know that date/time or document in your theory.,.
They just say it was so.. not according to normal procedure


Here with this line of thought. This is easy
Trump is 100% busted because 3 months ago BIden changed them all to top secret classified. He didn’t tell anyone or date stamp it. But just ask him he will tell you.
Case over
😂

This post was edited by theCrossbones on Aug 14 2022 11:43pm