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Quote (JessiWan @ Aug 14 2022 08:01pm)
So why doesn't Trump make the argument that he's in the process of returning those documents to the proper authority?

I don't know what the executive branch told him, but if they did tell him to hand over those documents and he said, no, then that's bad. But did he say no though? Maybe he's simply taking a good while to return those papers.


You tell me, why'd trump lie about the FBI planting documents?
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Aug 14 2022 09:10pm
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You tell me, why'd trump lie about the FBI planting documents?


I don't know if he lied or not, but lying about things is technically not illegal.

Anyway, you didn't address my point. Maybe Trump isn't refusing to hand over the documents. Maybe he's simply taking a good while. If this is true, then you cannot say he has committed a crime.
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I don't know if he lied or not, but lying about things is technically not illegal.

Anyway, you didn't address my point. Maybe Trump isn't refusing to hand over the documents. Maybe he's simply taking a good while. If this is true, then you cannot say he has committed a crime.



Lying to the fbi is literally illegal. If this was the iron clad gotcha you think it is, trump's shitty lawyers would be using it.

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Lying to the fbi is literally illegal


Did he lie to them or about them.
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Did he lie to them or about them.


As far as i understood trump took some documents from the white house. Some of them were top secret. He did not return them after they asked to return them. Therefore they came and took it back.

Whats the problem in all that? Seems totally legitimate to me. You could replace trump with anyone else and it would still be 100% legitimate.

He is not above the law
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As far as i understood trump took some documents from the white house. Some of them were top secret. He did not return them after they asked to return them. Therefore they came and took it back.

Whats the problem in all that? Seems totally legitimate to me. You could replace trump with anyone else and it would still be 100% legitimate.

He is not above the law


Did he say he refuses to return them? The only way you can say hes committed a crime is if he literally refused to return them. But you haven't proven such is the case. Its like I said, maybe he is simply being slow.

Also, were the FBI simply trying to recover those documents? Did they state that that was the reason for the raid, or was there something else. I was under the impression that we didn't know why the judge authorized the raid.
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Did he say he refuses to return them? The only way you can say hes committed a crime is if he literally refused to return them. But you haven't proven such is the case. Its like I said, maybe he is simply being slow.

Also, were the FBI simply trying to recover those documents? Did they state that that was the reason for the raid, or was there something else. I was under the impression that we didn't know why the judge authorized the raid.


He committed a crime because he isnt the president anymore and took top secret files. And yes they requested it.

No wonder he didnt want to release the warrant himself.
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He committed a crime because he isnt the president anymore and took top secret files.

And yes they requested it.


And did he say, "No, I refuse to return the papers"?

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And did he say, "No, I refuse to return the papers"?


His lawyers did. Yes

You know how we can confirm this? By checking if he returned them. He didnt.

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Quote (FantasyWorldII @ Aug 14 2022 08:30pm)
His lawyers did. Yes

You know how we can confirm this? By checking if he returned them. He didnt.


But you cannot prove that he has no intention of returing those documents. Like I said, he could just be taking a long time.
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