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Jul 29 2015 10:17am
Quote (duffman316 @ Jul 29 2015 11:07am)
Well you are going to school now so hopefully you'll grow out of that wlc phase

Do yourself a favour, take some philosophy courses


Why would that matter? If I don't agree with the new age philosophical naturalism bent that you agree with, it doesn't matter how many Philosophy degrees I have.

Internet atheist logic, ladies and gentlemen.

Quote (Valhalls_Sun @ Jul 29 2015 11:15am)
It's certainly brought the overall intelligence level down :blink:


Are you disagreeing with what WLC said? Where is he wrong?

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Jul 29 2015 10:20am
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Why would that matter? If I don't agree with the new age philosophical naturalism bent that you agree with, it doesn't matter how many Philosophy degrees I have.

Internet atheist logic, ladies and gentlemen.



Are you disagreeing with what WLC said? Where is he wrong?


So basically you've never done any research into wlcs arguments

You just watch the debates and clap loudly?
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Jul 29 2015 10:40am
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So basically you've never done any research into wlcs arguments

You just watch the debates and clap loudly?


WLC has argued hundreds of different topics... which ones are you specifically talking about? Are you saying that because a few of his ideas may be suspect, nothing he says is accurate or valuable?

Do you apply this kind of criticism to every thinker?
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Jul 29 2015 10:43am
I see iceage is still adding to the case against theists :rofl:
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Jul 29 2015 10:44am
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Are you disagreeing with what WLC said? Where is he wrong?


Feel free to put forward any of his arguments for the existence of God and I can give you a 4 page essay on why theyre wrong...

Though I'll probably just settle for the summary.

Everything WLC argues has been proven fallacious over and over and he even knows it. It's been done to his face. He's well aware his arguments hold no water and yet he continues preaching falsehoods to sell his books.

The guy is a charlatan. A skilled charlatan - I'll give him that... But a charlatan. A liar, a thief and a miser.

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WLC has argued hundreds of different topics... which ones are you specifically talking about? Are you saying that because a few of his ideas may be suspect, nothing he says is accurate or valuable?

Do you apply this kind of criticism to every thinker?


Lol. Thinker!!!

Hahahahaha.

Everything he says is regurgitated and mishmashed from other people's work. He has no original arguments.

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Feel free to put forward any of his arguments for the existence of God and I can give you a 4 page essay on why theyre wrong...

Though I'll probably just settle for the summary.

Everything WLC argues has been proven fallacious over and over and he even knows it. It's been done to his face. He's well aware his arguments hold no water and yet he continues preaching falsehoods to sell his books.

The guy is a charlatan. A skilled charlatan - I'll give him that... But a charlatan. A liar, a thief and a miser.



Lol. Thinker!!!

Hahahahaha.

Everything he says is regurgitated and mishmashed from other people's work. He has no original arguments.


So you're critical of WLC's lack of originality, and you want me to present his arguments so you can copy and paste from atheist websites?

:rofl:

Give me the percentage of philosophers who have truly original arguments.
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Jul 29 2015 11:01am
Quote (IceMage @ 29 Jul 2015 16:50)
So you're critical of WLC's lack of originality, and you want me to present his arguments so you can copy and paste from atheist websites?

:rofl:

Give me the percentage of philosophers who have truly original arguments.


1 - I wouldn't need to copy paste. There are enough glaring flaws in the Kalam Cosmological argument that anyone with an ability to think rationally and some small grasp of the english language could point them out in seconds. But even if I did that would only prove my point. The information is out there. He's aware his arguments are fallacious. The fact that you know it too is what amazes me... you continue to buy his bullshit even knowing it's bullshit.

2- It doesn't matter that it's not original. It matters that he continuously presents arguments he knows are fallacious. He doesn't care about truth. He cares about money. He is a scammer.
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Jul 29 2015 11:24am
Quote (IceMage @ Jul 29 2015 11:40am)
WLC has argued hundreds of different topics... which ones are you specifically talking about? Are you saying that because a few of his ideas may be suspect, nothing he says is accurate or valuable?

Do you apply this kind of criticism to every thinker?


for starters he's notorious for straw-manning his opponents

he can't even maintain basic decency/honesty when dealing with questions on his own website




his response~


goes on to target positive atheism and bash it
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for starters he's notorious for straw-manning his opponents

he can't even maintain basic decency/honesty when dealing with questions on his own website

http://i60.tinypic.com/ixcuwx.jpg


his response~
http://i61.tinypic.com/1060xte.jpg

goes on to target positive atheism and bash it


Yea. That's a pretty good example.

Like I said. The man is a liar. He's deceitful on so many levels. The only thing he's interested in is justifying people's beliefs and reassuring them that they're right to make his money. He preyws on idiots and people incapable of rationally assessing his arguments. 'Oh he used some big words and he's smart and he agrees with me so I must be right'. That's literally what he sells. He sells validation for Christians... and Icemage here has bought a bucketload.

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Quote (Scaly @ Jul 29 2015 12:56pm)
Yea. That's a pretty good example.

Like I said. The man is a liar. He's deceitful on so many levels. The only thing he's interested in is justifying people's beliefs and reassuring them that they're right to make his money. He preyws on idiots and people incapable of rationally assessing his arguments. 'Oh he used some big words and he's smart and he agrees with me so I must be right'. That's literally what he sells. He sells validation for Christians... and Icemage here has bought a bucketload.


apparently this moron also claims Einstein was wrong about relativity :lol:

http://www.reasonablefaith.org/time-and-relativity-theory

why this guy is trying to write science books i will never understands
http://www.amazon.ca/Einstein-Relativity-Absolute-Simultaneity-William/dp/041559166X

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