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Nov 4 2015 07:45am
No reason to punish good people for the actions of people with poor judgement and limited impulse control.

Making it easier for criminals by banning access to guns is not a solution.
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Nov 4 2015 07:57am
Quote (thesnipa @ Nov 4 2015 08:35am)
less guns =/= less violence

less guns = less gun violence


less gun laws = more gun death

http://america.aljazeera.com/watch/shows/america-tonight/articles/2015/11/3/these-states-have-the-highest-gun-death-rates-in-america.html
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My statement meant that the violence overall wont be changed, just shifted to using other tools. Or in a more practical sense those who want guns can still get them regardless of ANY law, and those who wish to kill others regardless of their access to guns will. Timmy Mcveigh comes to mind.

As to your article i wouldnt be surprised to find that equation correct, however i would be surprised to find out those states had and higher murder, violent crime, etc of any significant magnitude. Palestinians are showing the world how little superior firepower matters, one stab at a time.

This post was edited by thesnipa on Nov 4 2015 08:12am
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Quote (thesnipa @ 4 Nov 2015 09:11)
My statement meant that the violence overall wont be changed, just shifted to using other tools. Or in a more practical sense those who want guns can still get them regardless of ANY law, and those who wish to kill others regardless of their access to guns will. Timmy Mcveigh comes to mind.

As to your article i wouldnt be surprised to find that equation correct, however i would be surprised to find out those states had and higher murder, violent crime, etc of any significant magnitude. Palestinians are showing the world how little superior firepower matters, one stab at a time.


Until our society learns to place more value on the human life nothing is going to change. When the cost of taking care of people is the meter for food and shelter or neglect then how can we expect people to not place such little value on a life?

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Nov 4 2015 09:01am
Quote (thesnipa @ Nov 4 2015 10:11am)
My statement meant that the violence overall wont be changed, just shifted to using other tools. Or in a more practical sense those who want guns can still get them regardless of ANY law, and those who wish to kill others regardless of their access to guns will. Timmy Mcveigh comes to mind.

As to your article i wouldnt be surprised to find that equation correct, however i would be surprised to find out those states had and higher murder, violent crime, etc of any significant magnitude. Palestinians are showing the world how little superior firepower matters, one stab at a time.


sure, give top tech weapons to Hamas and watch yourself singing another song fast enough Mr. wise.



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I'm not a universalist, I wouldn't mind seeing people who commit crimes being disarmed, hood gangsters, meth heads, Democrats, and Palestinians all could be disarmed tomorrow and I wouldn't bat an eye.
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sure, give top tech weapons to Hamas and watch yourself singing another song fast enough Mr. wise.


Top tech weapons are far from relevant to that comparison. I'm talking about the uzi's and other high powered guns the Israeli soldiers have to combat Palestinian knife attackers. I dont think ANYTHING good would come of regular people having access to nukes and stealth bombers.
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Nov 4 2015 10:21am
Quote (Voyaging @ Nov 4 2015 09:04am)
More guns = more gun violence

Pretty simple m8


Hurrr durrr
We need to be focusing on how to help lower all violence, through other means.
Whether it is with a gun, a bomb, or a knife is irrelevant.

And once again, taking guns from people is a shitty, unnecessary, and lazy idea. It also will probably result in a lot of violence here.
Suggest an alternative if you care so much otherwise it's not going to change.

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Quote (PKSubban @ 4 Nov 2015 10:01)
sure, give top tech weapons to Hamas and watch yourself singing another song fast enough Mr. wise.



What a slingshot maybe a bola?

The fucking IDF responds to a rock thrown from a child with a shower of live ammo from their Hi Tech machine guns.

It's going to take a lot of stones to even the scales out you prejudiced bacon eater.
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