Quote (foxnews @ Aug 14 2022 07:21pm)

Here’s the question: how can it simultaneously be planted documents and declassified at the same time? Answer: it can’t.

You may try to argue technicalities but those aren’t based on the facts of what we know occurred and the statements by the Cheeto himself.

Quote (Goomshill @ Aug 14 2022 07:12pm)

Nobody has authority to "tell him". He is free to cooperate willingly in good faith. Again, the clear argument is that the president has the plenary power of classifications of documents. Its an argument from precedent set all the way back to George Washington's refusal to turn over documents to congress concerning the Jay Treaty in 1796, its an argument supported by court rulings in Navy v Egan and EPA v Mink, and even outside of this limited scope of criminal liability it has been a significant area of power struggle between congress and the president when it comes to the disclosure of national security information in multiple past precedents, in which numerous administrations cited that same plenary authority.

So again, I'm asking if anyone has read or dreamed up their own counterargument to this point.
The very first step in debunking a claim should be to create at least a plausible counterclaim. But we can't even get to that step.

Quote (JessiWan @ Aug 14 2022 09:23pm)

Calling Trump Cheeto. Your bias is showing.

Quote (foxnews @ Aug 14 2022 07:26pm)

Everyone is biased. I choose not to hide it. Does that make my argument less valid? We know the statements trump made in regard to the warrant.

Quote (JessiWan @ Aug 14 2022 09:30pm)

Stop trying to legitimize your bias. And your argument could have been made just as easily without calling Trump Cheeto.

Quote (foxnews @ Aug 14 2022 07:36pm)

Yet somehow you can keep on referring to people that disagree with you “lefties,” like we’re some big monolithic group. Don’t be a hypocrite when you show your bias just as much. Anyone not as far right is a Rino right?

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But yeah, as i figured no counter to what I said. Just a litmus test to see where my politics are.

Quote (JessiWan @ Aug 14 2022 09:49pm)

"Lefties" is a catch-all term to describe all those with left-leaning views. It is not inherently derogatory, unlike "Cheeto".

Anyway, I never said I was completely un-biased. But at least I don't try to defend being biased. Most people know that having a bias is undesirable.



I don't care about your politics. I am just pointing out that you are biased against Trump but clearly this upsets you.

Quote (Sioux @ Aug 14 2022 07:24pm)

Once he isn't president, the executive branch has the authority to tell him. Which they did. You aren't president with presidential powers into perpetuity. He was president until noon on Jan 20th 2021, and after that he was a normal civilian with no security clearance like every other chud on pard.

Quote (foxnews @ Aug 14 2022 07:58pm)

Whatever derogatory terms trump gets, he earned them. Can you debate why he would be undeserving of being called names?

Quote (JessiWan @ Aug 14 2022 10:05pm)

You can call him whatever you want, I don't care. I just wanted to point out that you are biased against him. You are also being very petty and juvenile. You can't do shit about him so you pout and call him nasty names on an obscure forum. Laughable.